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A thread without an OP? Strange. Anyway, it will depend on the legendaries I open (don't like crafting stuff Day 1). These are definitely the top 4 that I want to give a try though:

Yogg and Load Hunter

Wild · Yogg Hunter · by Erodos · 4 years, 11 months ago

• 0 Lock and Load x 2
• 1 Carrion Studies x 2
• 1 Demon Companion x 2
• 1 Mystery Winner x 2
• 1 Pen Flinger x 2
• 1 Resizing Pouch x 2
• 1 Tracking x 2
• 1 Wound Prey x 2
• 2 Kolkar Pack Runner x 2
• 2 Quick Shot x 2
• 2 Tame Beast (Rank 1) x 2
• 2 Wandmaker x 2
• 3 Mankrik x 1
• 4 Kazakus, Golem Shaper x 1
• 5 Barak Kodobane x 1
• 5 Taelan Fordring x 1
• 9 Malygos the Spellweaver x 1
• 10 Yogg-Saron, Master of Fate x 1

8,080 Dust 2,791 0 Copy Deck Code

Aggro Secret Paladin

Wild · Secret Paladin · by Erodos · 5 years ago

• 1 Avenge x 2
• 1 Conviction (Rank 1) x 2
• 1 First Day of School x 2
• 1 Knight of Anointment x 2
• 1 Noble Sacrifice x 2
• 1 Oh My Yogg! x 2
• 1 Righteous Protector x 2
• 2 Crabrider x 2
• 2 Hand of A'dal x 2
• 2 Sword of the Fallen x 2
• 3 Crossroads Gossiper x 2
• 3 Goody Two-Shields x 2
• 3 Northwatch Commander x 2
• 3 Voracious Reader x 2
• 4 Cariel Roame x 1
• 5 Cannonmaster Smythe x 1

6,000 Dust 1,593 0 Copy Deck Code

Midrange Greybough Taunt Druid

Wild · Taunt Druid · by Erodos · 5 years ago

• 0 Innervate x 2
• 0 Lightning Bloom x 2
• 1 Enchanted Raven x 2
• 1 Nature Studies x 2
• 2 Annoy-o-Tron x 2
• 2 Guess the Weight x 2
• 2 Mark of the Spikeshell x 2
• 2 Razormane Battleguard x 2
• 2 Thorngrowth Sentries x 2
• 2 Toad of the Wilds x 2
• 3 Dreaming Drake x 2
• 3 Guff Runetotem x 1
• 4 Plaguemaw the Rotting x 1
• 4 Thickhide Kodo x 2
• 5 Arbor Up x 2
• 5 Greybough x 1
• 5 Taelan Fordring x 1

6,680 Dust 1,406 0 Copy Deck Code

Barrens Control Warlock

Wild · Control Warlock · by Erodos · 5 years, 1 month ago

• 1 Armor Vendor x 2
• 1 Spirit Jailer x 2
• 2 Drain Soul x 2
• 2 Soul Shear x 2
• 3 Death's Head Cultist x 2
• 3 Luckysoul Hoarder x 1
• 3 School Spirits x 2
• 3 Tamsin Roame x 1
• 4 Cascading Disaster x 2
• 4 Hysteria x 2
• 4 Siphon Soul x 2
• 5 Envoy Rustwix x 1
• 6 Tickatus x 1
• 7 Soulciologist Malicia x 1
• 7 Strongman x 2
• 8 Lord Jaraxxus x 1
• 8 Twisting Nether x 2
• 9 Alexstrasza the Life-Binder x 1
• 10 Y'Shaarj, the Defiler x 1

9,820 Dust 3,724 0 Copy Deck Code

Holy shit this actually works! I can finally have the best combo cards: Majordomo Executus and Emperor Thaurissan 

Maiev is still up in the store, even the description reads "available through March 22". My guess is that Blizzard forgot about hero skin rotations. Sigh.

I was looking through the flavor text of the new cards when I noticed Barrens Blacksmith's flavor text says "Maybe someday you’ll make it to Gadgetzan, kid". I also noticed that Barrens Blacksmith also has the same goggles and gloves that Alley Armorsmith has. COULD IT BE?

If it is intentional, I have to give props to whoever added these references into this set. We got to see the return of characters like Flurgl and Kazakus and also the grown-up versions of Elise's scouts through some of the mercenaries.

I think this will be a cool year for Hearthstone lore!

I was looking through rogue secret cards, and I noticed these two cards:
https://outof.cards/hearthstone/cards/11257-shady-business

https://outof.cards/hearthstone/cards/11266-subtlety

I never saw these cards before, so I'm bringing it up here.

This might have been part of Book of Heroes, I didn't play through the new ones yet.

Instead of bringing back originals with Deathrattle and end of turn triggers.

For example, if Impostor was silenced before dying, the Res cards have a chance to bring back a 2/6 silenced minion.

OK, I'm only really talking about casual mode.  To clarify, I'm an adult, have lots of other things to worry about in life, and don't really care about ladder, rankings, legend card backs, and so forth.  I just want to play some games and have some fun, though I'd prefer things to be relatively fair.

What I mean is, in casual, whenever someone doesn't like the matchup, they just quit.  If they don't get a good mulligan, they quit.  If they puke out some cards and I defend myself and turn the corner, they often just quit before I even damage their health.

The point is that I, usually, just end up playing the opponents who think they have an advantageous match-up or have drawn really well.  I know the answer would be to play ladder, but I've already explained about that.

My point is that, the way things used to be, your win would count toward your earning gold.  Now, when someone quits immediately, you get 0 XP, and you essentially lose all the gold you would be getting from quick concessions.

Like I said, I have other things to worry about in life, but I'd prefer the game to be fair, and this doesn't feel fair.  I'm only playing games where my opponent thinks he has the advantage from the start, and get no benefit at all from a concession.  Every time my opponent concedes, which is really often, I feel deflated, because I technically won but got nothing.

At least, for example, in Runeterra, if you win, even if your opponent concedes, you get double what you get when you lose (and even when you no longer get rewards for a loss, you still get full rewards for a win).  So, at least when your opponent concedes you don't feel like you were robbed of the chance to win, because at least the win counted for something.

I don't even know if there is any bonus to your XP if you win in casual, but, even if there is, you don't get anything when your opponent concedes immediately.

I really feel that there should be XP that you get for time played, and XP you get for a win itself, and you should get that win XP whether you play a long game or whether your opponent concedes immediately.

I mean, think about it, if you play 30 games, and your opponent concedes 10 of them, that's essentially 30.3 gold that you would have gotten in the old system, where you would get 0 gold now.  Add that up over 3 or 4 months of playing, and that actually quite a lot of gold and packs you will have lost out on by not getting anything from quick concessions.

Like I said, I have other things that are far more important in my life, but, still, I like not to feel so meh during all the frequent concessions.  I'm not about to start bothering with ladder, but casual just feels unrewarding.

Even if I got something like 25 XP for a concession win, if wouldn't be a lot, but at least I wouldn't feel cheated.

I'm not sure why things aren't configured where you get rewards for a concession just like you used to.  Perhaps the devs though that this new reward system would keep people from conceding, since you get no reward if you put no time in, but the opposite seems to have happened.

I also thought that granting XP for time played would induce people to play longer and more complicated games, but look how that turned out.  Everyone seems to just want to vomit cards as quickly as possible and win by turn 5 and get their 12 XP for such a short game.  I really don't get it, but that another subject I guess.

Anyway, like I said, it just seems meh a lot of the time.  People quit if they don't like the matchup, or someone doesn't quit because they think they can vomit cards and beat you in 2 minutes.  So you're getting 0 XP for the concessions and usually 12-20 XP for games where someone pukes cards and ends the game in a couple of minutes.  It just feels kind of useless when you need tons and tons of games at that pace to level up.

Yes, I know, I should play ladder, where I advance if someone concedes and they're not as likely to concede because of losing rank.  And I suppose that maybe the devs wanted to steer people into ranked play more.  I'm not putting people down who are into ladder, but it's just not something I care about.

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rewarding all players with one Golden Classic Card Pack just for logging in after the 20.0 patch has gone live! 

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can these cards be dusted?

according to the reveal schedule today is the last day. Correct? So half of the new cards will be disclosed today ...

A lot of people are saying this card is insane but I just don’t see it personally.

Firstly, it costs 4 mana and that seems like way too high a cost to be played comfortably. You probably wouldn’t keep this in your mulligan unless you were playing a... control Rogue?

Secondly, it is also a combo effect and you’ll probably get it online on turn 5 most of the time... and then you play two 1 cost cards.

It just seems like the community is overreacting again. Thoughts?

Hi guys, 

Thought this could be a fun little thread where we all share the deck (or decks) we're playing in the final week of the Year of the Phoenix. Personally, I'm giving my favourite deck over the last two years a farewell tour. My Big Paladin has been getting more and more great big minions such as Scrapyard Colossus, Plagued Protodrake and Runaway Blackwing in the Year of the Phoenix but some key cards are rotating in a week's time, like Colossus of the Moon and Duel!. Who knows? The deck may be able to survive rotation, but just in case it doesn't, I want to give it one last go this week. 

Final Week of the Year Big Paladin (The Fun, Less Good Version)

Wild · Big Paladin · by cydonianknight · 5 years ago

• 1 Desperate Measures x 2
• 1 First Day of School x 2
• 2 Air Raid x 2
• 2 Lightforged Blessing x 1
• 2 Snack Run x 1
• 2 Subdue x 1
• 3 Consecration x 2
• 4 Barricade x 2
• 4 Truesilver Champion x 2
• 5 Duel! x 2
• 6 Hammer of the Naaru x 2
• 7 Commencement x 2
• 8 Plagued Protodrake x 2
• 8 Tirion Fordring x 1
• 8 Turalyon, the Tenured x 1
• 10 Colossus of the Moon x 1
• 10 Runaway Blackwing x 2
• 10 Scrapyard Colossus x 2

7,820 Dust 728 0 Copy Deck Code

As we now on March 25th the new Reward track will release. So it will be most likely optimal to hold on weekly quests until Thursday to have a small kick for new Reward track, right?

Source: https://outof.cards/hearthstone/2839-hearthstones-200-patch-is-releasing-on-march-25-heres-whats-in-it

This was in response to Zeddy's video today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBmmACAz8j8 I just felt like sharing my response here because I really have no life XD

The nerfing method they are oblivious to is tweaking the draw rate of an overpowered card. Take example of many broken cards that have gained a mana cost and have fell into oblivion, Spiteful Summoner an example. The better solution is to simply adjust the rate it can be drawn from deck. Right now every card has a 1/X chance of being drawn X being deck size. I believe that for over-performers they should occur less, thus carrying decks less consistently.

This already sort of exists in the game in Arena where outlying classes get worse drops and weaker ones get better drafts. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to apply this to the general game where, sure, you can add Secret Passage but just know that it occurs just 4%* less in a draw than your other cards will. There can even be written an algorithm where the more a card is performing inside of these constraints it automatically adjusts itself a % or two accordingly to the point where the problem takes care of itself.

A hyperbolic example would be if there came to be a card that read, "1 mana: deal 30 damage to the enemy hero" the card would eventually be so reduced in draw rate you had a 1% chance of even drawing it, making it a pretty much useless card (not counting tutoring ofc). By this means, Skull of Guldan doesnt have to be nerfed into oblivion it just doesn't show up quite as much.

As far as I am concerned this is the natural remedy to this ongoing problem and they certainly have the brains to whip up a method of implementing this and everybody wins: people who want to play the broken cards can still play them in all their glory and people who hate them get to see them less often.

* number was originally 15% which admittedly is way too high

Welcome to my Big Turalyon guide by a player who goes 8-12 wins with him every time. I main the T-man and often end runs when I do not get him until it finally gives me him. I averaged the same number of wins on Heroic Duels but since I'm saving up gold for the next expansion I've been able to just devastate casuals with him without needing to play out another class, none of which I really enjoy.

*** There's just two weeks to enjoy this build before Duels' season rotates!!! I will be playing a lot of Turalyon's next batch of cards and write a follow-up to this guide when I feel I have a grasp of it. Also, apologies on the spacing, was written elsewhere originally and didnt paste over well, no way to fix it seems ***

So why play Turalyon in the first place?

- His hero power packs the most value of any when used correctly

- Starting item, Royal Greatsword often seals the win if played on curve
- Dominates the early rounds easily

- I've never once been victim to a C'Thun, the Shattered or fatigue
- Unbelievably fun every time!

Why wouldn't you?

- Deck is expensive and having the legendaries is pretty important

- Can get ran over by opponent's early bullshit

- Many treasures and passives do not synergize at all

- Lack of removal
- His name is really hard to spell (i had to copy/paste it)

The general mindset you want to get into when playing Turalyon is every choice matters, maybe more than any other hero, because if your hero power is summoning garbage you're probably not going to win. Sometimes you try not to use it so much early so your pool isn't so diluted by lesser picks (the first time one of your rez's dies it means there are now two in the deadpool).

Luckily, this is part of the fun: playing the mini-game both in a match and when building deck that you are maxing out your Golden Light hero power. You are going to want to pass up certain high-powered cards like First Day of School for example because in the long run it is going to muck you up.

Naturally, one of the greatest reasons to want to play Turalyon is because of his mind-blowingingly powerful starting treasure, Royal Greatsword. Priced at 5 mana, it's already excellent for its 6/3 stats (Upgraded Arcanite Reaper). On top of that you'll be summoning a daunting amount of stats... attached to minions who synergize with your hero power o.O

Keep in mind that this deck can jam up like any other and you can become susceptible to whatever over-the-top craziness that your opponent pulls off as much as they are to your's (e.g. I recently played a Druid with Greybough and the duplicate legendary passive, rip..). However, if you're a fan of both the big and rez play styles, you will want to give him a second chance.

Turalyon isn't played so much because people play him wrong. Enough attention is not given to his weaker early game and people just want to pop off with the titans. This is not how he is played.

Let's continue on to the cards you will be adding. I like to go 5-6 good legendaries and I add ONLY good ones when they offered. Simply compare to the cards listed below when deciding. Usually you will want to bolster your early game and move onto good curve cards. The first few rounds are easy wins but as you advance your games will take longer and your cheap win condition appears less. ALWAYS TAKE NO MORE PLEASE.

TURALYON's ARSENAL & ANALYSIS

I play not just to win but also to have fun. Because of that I am always shifting my roster up to whatever mood I'm in. There are some core cards that I never change though. I have tried out several Paladin cards in my dozens of games with this build and these are the ones that always keep coming back.

Must Haves:

Sphere of Sapience - This is one of the reasons you should breeze by the early rounds. Sphere pretty much guarantees you get your Greatsword when you need it. It also turns away expensive legendaries we don't need early on.

Oh My Yogg! - Don't laugh.. This card carries. When you go 12 rounds in a row you are guaranteed to transform a few treasure spells into garbage a few times. Opponents often do not respect it and lose a huge chunk of power of their deck for their foolishness. Remember never to cast when they have coin. Acceptable turn 1 play, but for maximum output use a little later on.

Sneaky Delinquent - Dependable early game and a useful resurrect,
Argent Braggart - While a wretched hero power target, your pool will be filled by the time it comes out. It's just too much value to pass up on since we are going big.

Wolfrider - Solid early game removal and fine resurrect target. It just makes sense.
Fishy Flyer - Early game cannot be stressed enough and four damage for 2 is always fine. Later into runs you may want to carefully manage this card with Sneaky Delinquent because they can fill your hand up a bit much.
Blessing of Authority - Combos with Argent Braggart and resurrected Sneakies. It's just a plain strong card for what we are trying to accomplish.

Legendary List (in order of importance):

Keymaster Alabaster - Double your chances of screwing with their treasures. I remember first giving Ally a try out and thinking, hey why not. Capturing their power cards at 1 mana is soul-crushing. Excellent resurrect at that.
Ragnaros, Lightlord - Not to be passed up unless you do not own (will likely not return to Duels for a while).
Turalyon, the Tenured - Surprisingly good. It's removal which the deck needs and I am rarely disappointed when drawn by Greatsword. Awesome resurrect.

Ysera - Unfortunately not the Lich King but is still a welcome addition to this deck. I own her golden!
Y'Shaarj, Rage Unbound - A terrifying 10/10 plus more. Not necessary but can win games all by itself being drawn out early.
Cairne Bloodhoof - Solid curve minion, acceptable Greatsword and resurrect targe
Tirion Fordring - Oh, Tirion... This card is a mixed bag, it being a massively great hero power pick BUT can sabotage your Greatsword if drawn first and your opponent destroys him. All in all, it is a great choice but has cost me some long games that could've been won much faster.
Loatheb - Just plain good and acceptable draw from Greatsword.

Alexstrasza - Can be good especially in later rounds when opponent's have tons of health.

Support Cards:

Animated Broomstick - Very useful control tool and not a terrible rez.

Loot Hoarder - It's alright, albeit slow. This is a personal choice matter.
Consecration - The classic Paladin AoE. You just can't go wrong.

Not Recommended (in starting deck, fine during selection):

Goody Two-Shields - Took me a while to depart from using this gal. It's just too slow and we do not pack enough spells. Wolfrider is leagues better.
Darkmoon Dirigible - Seems a good idea and when corrupted it certainly is. However, I always find myself having to play it on curve and a 3/2 div shield for 3 is too slow.

Truesilver Champion- I stopped running this as it conflicts with weapons we already have and other minions and hero power take care of its niche.

Fleethoof Pearltusk - While having an 8/1 rusher for 2 mana is tempting, this card is little help in the early game and overkill versus wide boards.

PASSIVES THAT TURALYON LOVES

All passives are not created equal. These are the ones you need to choose in order of importance. If it isn't listed it isn't worth your time.

Fist Pick:

Rocket Backpacks - This is just simply great, overshadowing most of the early passives.
Scattered Caltrops - These add up to a lot of damage. Controlling the board is extremely important and these will help achieve that.
Recycling - This is an excellent choice because we will be summoning several 1 health minions. It will really keep you out of death range long enough to apply your own deadly value.

Mysterious Tome - Very helpful to boost our subpar early game. On a high roll you will get Rigged Faire Game and start the game with three extra cards!
Grommash's Armguards - This isn't terrible at all. Optimally you will be getting the jump on the opponent all the sooner! However, we don't run a lot weapons or are offered any we like, so it isn't high value.
Pillage the Fallen - I never get offered this one oddly, so am unsure if its interaction of playing a NEW weapon will proc it, destroying that new weapon. If so, it's garbage, if not a solid choice.
Ever-Changing Elixir and Unlocked Potential are never to be taken and they are a detriment to the game plan.

Second Pick:

Disks of Legend - Oh yeah. If you are lucky enough to be offered to this you want to take it. Pretty self explanatory and will increase your odds of rezzing those big boys.

Scepter of Summoning - Similar if a little worse than Disks is this Sceptre. Being able to cheat the costly legs out for 5 is a terrific benefit.

Emerald Goggles - Always a great pick-up, it aids both the early and late game.

Mummy Magic- This can really help bring the most out of your Fishy Flyer and Sneaky Delinquent. Such early game value is important.
Book of Wonders and From the Swamp (does this still exist?) are never to be chosen as they can or will lead to wrecking our hero power.

TURALYON's FAVE TREASURES

Just like passives the treasures you are offered can decide how many wins you get, both if offered and if you can draw them. These are the ones that work for me. If you are not offered any of these use your best discretion.

First Pick:

Loyal Sidekick - Great pick since it passively gains stats when rezzed: for just 2 mana your hero power resummons it with just one less health than when you cast it for 4.

Vampiric Fangs- One thing this deck is weak at is removal, hence the Paladin class.This spell will save your butt and keep you alive.
Crusty the Crustacean - Sure, it is a terrible rez but we critically lack removal short of rush so is still a high priority selection.

Murloc Holmes - A bite-sized Keymaster, this makes for a solid hero power rez. Solid 3-drop at that.

Anything that summons trash minions is to be passed up. Also Princess is really not as exciting as it sounds like it would be.

Later Picks:

Staff of Scales - Easily my favorite treasure. If you can get all six snakeys to die your chances at summoning two poisonous rushers for 2 mana is high. Completely broken on Turalyon. Opponents tend to concede when it gets through their head that they are not allowed to have board anymore.

Wand of Disintegration - Removal. Nuff said.

Book of the Dead - Removal. Nuff said.

Hyperblaster - (slow) Removal. Nuff said.

Archmage Staff- A decent choice as it can bestow some good stuff.

(Coming Soon: High Priority Cards to Draft!)

Well, I hope that helps! I had a good time writing it while I had to endure a lengthy zoom meeting in the background. I highly encourage anyone who tried old-school Turalyon before and felt he wasn't strong enough to try my build. At the very least it's a ton of fun. Always mulligan for early game and keep an eye on your deadpool: try to manipulate it so you have the best chance of squeezing the most value out of it.

Also, Turalyon's emotes are arrogant af. Use them often for maximum tilt. Feel free to ask any questions or leave any comments.

being Forged launched the 30th, I assume that when we open the packs gifted during march, they will be Forged packs ... correct ?

the 2 mana card in hand is a murloc minion 100%

Whether it's ranked or duels I see this card all the time. For the 80 times I've seen it shuffle in at the start of game I think I've seen it actually play out three times or so. Still people always throw it in. Why? No I do not play aggro decks.

Hello everyone! Don't know if anyone else has the same problem, but i always collect the majority of cards in each expansion, but i end up playing the same meta decks over and over. 

I usually use HSreplay to find competitive decks, but i would like to know what sites you visit in order to find fun decks. I don't want to search for Tier 1 decks, but also not win 1 out of 10 games meme decks. I want something in the middle, like decks that differentiate from the Top decks and use some not so played cards, that can win if you play many games and learn how to pilot that deck.

''Lucky Dragon Casino Mage" that was shared in this site, is a good example. Relies too much on RNG to be reliable, but i love Mage and have good results with the deck without it being meta.

Thank you for your suggestions.

Murlocs are looking pretty trash right now though. So we will probably have to wait an expansion or two before it's actually viable but still cool. 

okay so hear me out , blizz said  that brawls will give  more recent packs right ? so lets assume this happens  when patch 2.0 goes live , then, we will assume those packs will be barrens because it will be the most recent expansion (technically it still darkmoon but darkmoon will be way less valuable  a week before the new expac) now the fun starts if the patch goes live  tuesday 23 and you have a pack for the last week in the chest it should  trasform into a barrens pack! now this is all a theory but if you dont play tavern  next week ( you can play but you cant win so i dont see a point XD) you dont lose anything and worst case scenario  after the patch rolls you can still get your classic pack if it didnt work ( you can do it against  a friend to save time)

 i will do it so lets experiment with me guys!  a little shout-out to the alleria guy (or girl) that always remember about the free arena pack,  it inspired me to do this  Thread, you rock!