New Demon Hunter Minion - Death Speaker Blackthorn
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A new Legendary Demon Hunter Minion, Death Speaker Blackthorn, has been revealed!
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A new Legendary Demon Hunter Minion, Death Speaker Blackthorn, has been revealed!
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Has great potential, if DH gets some good deathrattle support. I'd be excited to see more midrange deathrattle DH archetypes. Aggro and OTK just aren't that fun for me.
Premium effect, targeted summon, incredible potential in a control shell for Wild paired with N'Zoth.
Still, I'm not convinced with DR DH.
Papa Nurgle wants to share his gifts.
What is this??? Can't they show us at least one good deathrattle, or are they saving those for final stream???
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Ok, now Demon Hunter gets the ability to summon minions from their deck, great.
By the end of this year DH is probably able to do everything that is unique for all other classes in HS, wonderful.
NOT!
More support for deathrattle DH. Let's hope we get some other cards for this archetype
Potentially dearhrattle DH decks?
There's still plenty of time to see more good deathrattles come out for Demon Hunter (or just Neutral cards), so I want to reserve some judgement on the whole Deathrattle package here, but right now it just seems kind of silly.
But what's the best case scenario here so far? Maybe Al'ar or Taelan Fordring or Renowned Performer or Disguised Wanderer or Fishy Flyer? Cheating cards out is pretty valuable, so maybe that gets over the fact that most of these deathrattles they have today are just pretty weak.
With Baron Rivendare in Standard, it's very possible that you only need a couple of good deathrattles to make this package work, but it seems low power.
The fact that its a battlecry and specifically recruits minions from your deck means that this card will at some point see play.
Im convinced that here has to be better cards down the line for this card to exist. Hopefully theres at least a taunt, because without it this card is absolutely just unplayable for the most part.
Reminds me of Soulciologist Malicia, and that's the high bar this card has to got reach to be good enough.
This Deathrattle DH is becoming more amazing every time I check!
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A new playstyle for DH is coming together slowly. We've now seen a card that summons DR's from hand, and one that summons them from the deck, and a card that draw them. There is a lot of flexibility here. Without even seeing some insanely powerful new DR cards, just look at things like Scrapyard Colossus.
"Be excellent to each other." -Bill and Ted
Hard to know how good it is until we see some DR cards.
Also DH being a DR class it´s just weird...
this has potential. But I would not play this with Razorfen Beastmaster.
This is not the payoff you want for the archetype. Terrible.
This is strong. Even if the Deathrattle pool we have right now isn't that impressive, even pulling out 2 Fishy Flyers and a Renowned Performer is an insane tempo swing with 11 fast damage scattered through 3 bodies that will leave a lot of board presence behind and refill your hand.
While I'm not sure Death Speaker Blackthorn will be top tier imediately, because DH doesn't have the top tier deathrattles for it right now, I can expect him to have at least a bit of time under the spotlight over the two years he'll be in standard.
Rating cards on coolness factor rather than predicting power because I like screwing up rating averages (and because I suck at predicting real power levels, but we'll ignore that LUL)
Wins per class (2/6/22): DH-197; Druid-996; Hunter-91«60; Mage-1056; Paladin-1126; Priest-746; Rogue-961; Shaman-1095; Warlock-871; Warrior-906
What is this? Where am I? Who are you?
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I think I can see the writing on the wall, Death Rattle Demon Hunter is being pushed now.
I hope, deathrattle DH will not end up like freeze shaman...
again with the deathrattle DH. have to assume deathrattle minions are incoming at this point
DR DH Here I come
Rogue DH
Have potential to be good, but lets see if deathrattle DH is going to work
So, to change the dh hate for the class they're making it dr...
For The HORDE!
Looks as if they are trying to steer DH from a face class. Very nice card!
Holy moly, Taelan Fordring is (EDIT: and Al'ar are) the only 5-cost deathrattles available to DH in Standard that we know of so far.
What a weird time to be a Demon Hunter.
I just hope the Deathrattles they're adding (yet to be revealed) aren't TOO busted....
Insane value especially for wild can pull 15 mana worth of cards might be a little too OP
Once again, hah, yeah, what can Demon Hunter NOT do? I think mana ramp and direct healing are the only items left on the list. That said, this card makes me happy, because it makes clear their vision for Deathrattle DH --> it's a this-expansion thing, like Freeze Shaman, not something that they'll make part of the class archetype. For the latter they'd print a less pigeonholed legendary.
Now that I know that, it's starting to feel a l'il exciting to play a DH archetype that isn't straight faceplace toxicity.
Better call Thrall!
does... blizzard know the difference between demon hunter green and rexxar hunter green?
Imagine if they release no other deathrattle minions and we have to wait till the mini-expansion for the real deathrattles
My boys Feugen and Stalagg got a new tool
Al'ar
Redundant with the other Death cards. Maybe with first half with non-deaths.
Ok, this seems like it could be good. Run it in a deck with at least 6 deathrattle minions that cost 4 or 5 and no cheaper ones, and it will be a powerful turn all by itself. Even if it's not good, though, it will be run in fun decks. Death Speaker Blackthorn + Stalagg + Feugen? Streamer gold.
Ikr, enough teasing already and show us what you meant all along ; is the archetype viable this meta or what?
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Yikes, this has the potential to be a problematic card. Thank goodness Coilfang Warlord is an 8-mana card...
I hope the devs print some playable deathrattle minions for this archetype. Right now, there aren't any good deathrattle minions that this can pull out that I'm aware of.
EDIT:
Okay, I checked the good deathrattle minions in standard that this can possibly pull, which are:
Fishy Flyer, Renowned Performer, Razorfen Beastmaster, Sneaky Delinquent, Al'ar, Taelan Fordring
It's obviously not enough, so for this archetype to work it needs more support/good deathrattle minions.
This card is absolutely insane on paper, but Demon Hunter doesn't really have any good class-specific targets at the moment. This card basically lives and dies by what good targets we get if any.
It's really good if Demon Hunter gets some good 4-5 mana deathrattles
Even if you pull a bunch of trash you should still get more stats than what you paid for. I would've dared to call it fairly solid even with two Deathrattle pulls, but Demon Hunter always needs to go a bit further. The support for Deathrattle DH is definitely there so we'll see what happens.
deathrattle support continues. if they get a few more this might become even viable
I like this oňe
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If DH deathrattle take form, this one will carry it. Really really strong. Doesn't empty your hand and fill the board
Only thing we're missing is, umm, maybe some deathrattle minions? We can summon from our hand, our deck, but what are we summoning lol
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Hard to vote and comment on this, we seen nothing yet
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Okay, another deathrattle DH support, but where are the good deathrattle cards we are going to summon?
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Okay, another deathrattle DH support, but where are the good deathrattle cards we are going to summon?
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can find a slot in a DR DH
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Now we're talking... A couple of good Deathrattle minions and we're done
We saw the deathrattle DH enabler cards, but were are the deathrattles?
no why they make only dh dh cards :(
Deathrattle demon hunter could work now just need to some deathrattle minions to see if it can work.Plus you have to get this card fast and pray that you dont draw all your other deathrattle cards so you can get them out in a class that draws cards at the buffet table.Looks fun will try it out.
At best 15mana value extra for 1 card. That's cheating DH!
Card is good, but very very boring
Interesting idea but im hoping that they will reveal some decent Deathrattle for a Synergy like this because right now this seems weak.
But with the right support this has potential to be strong.
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This could be very strong, it once again depends on what Deathrattle minions DH gets.
This is good, but at the same time hard to build around.
You need a large amount of Deathrattle minions to make this work (at least 6 minions total to have a reasonable chance of this pulling full value)
Funnily enough this might also make the Darkmoon 4-drop playable because you might want some immediate impact from this.
I also like this Deathrattle direction. Instead of going for some big value deathrattles to replacte later it'S more about the immediate impact of sticky minions, which neither Hunter nor Rogue ever really played with
I tried having fun once.
It was awful.
So I guess there was a reason why Baron Rivendare was added to the core set. Well if blizzard really wants to push deathrattle hunter DH, guess we'll have to go with it
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Deathrattle DH?
Could be good, could be terrible. Can't be sure yet
This is insane, it can basically draw you 3 cards and discount them by 5 mana. It's like a better skull, but only for Deathrattle cards. Maybe DH doesn't even need good deathrattle cards since this support will carry them by itself, but let's be honest, they still will.
I don't really get it ^^'
good card
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this looks really cool, a bit like call to arms, I just wonder if it'll be good enough
Not sure why BLizzard decided to push Deathrattle DH so much, without giving it any actual deathrattle effects.. .still the effect is very good, 3 free cards means a lot, specially if they are also taunt/rush
With the right DR cards this is absolutely nuts. That is potentially a lot os stats summoned along with strong DR effects and deck thinning on top of it.
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Ooh this seems really good. Potential targets for this: Taelan Fordring, Al'ar, Fishy Flyer, Renowned Performer, Razorfen Beastmaster, Loot Hoarder, Explosive Sheep and Bloodmage Thalnos. So far this seems more like some kind of control DH package honestly, which is surpising. I thought that Deathratlle DH would be an aggresive deck. (Unless new deathrattle DH card we haven't seen yet are super aggresive.)
Also remember that this effect is kinda like Call to Arms, so it is a pretty strong effect. The only problem i can really imagine for this card is that DH is REALLY good at drawing cards, so there might not be that many targets for it in the deck by the time you play it. But even still don't underestimate this card, any time we see a new 5 cost or lower deathrattle card printed, it can be a target for Death Speaker Blackthorn.
RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.
draw and play 3 minions,op
Big value but will dh be control/tempo? Hard to say since its a new class, but lets experiment new things
Murlocs <3
So much support for deathrattle demon hunter - nobody will play it. Unless they add in some insane OP deathrattles.
Great card and the guy to make deathrattle Demon Hunter work at all. A card that will be stronger than its designated archetype
Not sold on DR for DH yet but lots of cards to go.
This looks tremendously powerful. I don't know exactly which deathrattle minions you would recruit, but the sheer number of stats you get makes this a powerful card even if you have to play sub-par deathrattle minions.
Carrion, my wayward grub.
Recruit not again! This can be busted with the right cards or see zero play we shall see.
I hope for strong deathrattles to be revealed. I hope this archetype is better than freeze shaman lol
Obviously, cheating mana is something not to be taken lightly in Hearthstone; however, my issues with Death Speaker Blackthorn are more of a contextual one for DH. First, DHs draw through their deck very efficiently, and that has anti-synergy with Blackthorn, especially Vengeful Spirit. Second, Skull of Gul'dan has warped how DH plays since the release of the class that Soul DH has cut Soulciologist Malicia, another seven mana minion that creates a board, because it could block a turn six Skull. Considering both of these points, I'm not optimistic about Blackthorn's competitive viability, unless there are some bonkers deathrattle minions introduced for Blackthorn to summon.
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I think people are sleeping on this card summoning Al'ar, Taelan Fordring and a 4 drop, it's a very sticky board that can easily survive a turn, not easily dealt with a simple board clear, and allow you to do some shenaningans with Teron Gorefiend for example. It also thins 3 cards from your deck and thinning multiple cards while having an effect on board is known to be one of the most powerful mechanics in Hearthstone, going all the way back to the introduction of Mysterious Challenger.
And it's guaranteed that a least one 5 mana deathrattle will be revealed, and more synergy will probably come in the mini set.
Too bad DH doesn't have a prime since I'm sure it would cost 4 or less, I hope they add one like the studies they did in the last miniset.
Impossible to really judge. No deathrattles have been shown so far, or at least very few, and without knowing them we can't know if this will be any good.
I guess deathrattle DH will be running cheap to mid-cost deathrattle minions. I have no idea if the right cards exist for it to be good, but Blizzard is certainly trying to make it a thing.
We need good taunt deathrattles. This has some amazing potential
I'll never get excited for you DH players.
I've been here a while; just hanging out in the background.
And here's the strong deathrattle centrepiece we needed. I can't wait to try this deck.
At this point I have spent too much money on these games to quit.
Now pass me another pack, and lets see what I pull.
Watch Blizzard just not post any cards for this, only the support cards.
4 Mana 7/7
Can't they reveal the deathrattle minions before their support cards.
Cool looking card, could be very strong depending on the Deathrattles. You probably wouldn't want to go lower than (4) cost for this one. Would like this archetype to work.
Right now there aren't any good 5 mana deathrattle targets for this (and I don't want put Al'ar just for this card) and at 4 mana there's Disguised Wanderer and Renowned Performer. I think on wild will be better...but let's all the card before evaluate this card
Again... we can't really know until we see all the deathrattle minions
VERY strong effect, now it just remains to be seen if it will be a strong effect in DH. Currently there are some strong cards like Fishy Flyer or Taelan Fordring that you can pull, but I think there still needs some more 'oomph'
As neutral, great card. But as only DH, mediocre
Much like with Guardian Animals, a card that's very similar to this (pre-nerf), I'm guessing there will be at least one really good Deathrattle minion in the final reveal. But since they don't gain Rush, this is legendary so a one-off, and there's anti-synergy with Razorfen Beastmaster, I doubt this will end up nearly as good.
Here are all the Neutral/Demon Hunter 5-cost and lower Deathrattle minions we know will be in Standard after rotation:
Al'ar, Taelan Fordring, Disguised Wanderer, Fishy Flyer, Renowned Performer, Educated Elekk, Razorfen Beastmaster, Teron Gorefiend, Bloodmage Thalnos, Explosive Sheep, Loot Hoarder, Nerubian Egg, Rustsworn Initiate, Showstopper, Sneaky Delinquent
Of course, there may and almost certainly will be more of these in FitB if Blizz wants to push this archetype.
One interesting note is that among these are an Elemental, a Murloc, a Beast and a Mech (and one which summons a Demon). So Death Speaker Blackthorn could potentially set you up for a high-value N'Zoth, God of the Deep on a subsequent turn.
Other important synergy includes: Baron Rivendare, Vectus, Vengeful Spirit
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Ok this is nice. Now show us some DH Deathrattle cards...
Insane effect if DH gets deathrattle support cards. The effects can pull up to 15 mana worth of power.
Reminds of Guardian Animals, but with death rattle and more bodies.
Deathrattle meta ?
not enough support for deathrattle demon hunter so far?
Cool card without support (yet).
By The Holy Light!
Why are they printing Hunter cards in DH this expansion, do they really have no idea where to go from there with this class ??
This is going to be amazing
I think this won't get past experimentation. Even with the reveals, I don't know there are enough solid deathrattles people will actually want to play to warrant this.
Here's an updated list of all the Neutral/Demon Hunter 5-cost and lower Deathrattle minions we know will be in Standard after rotation:
5-cost: Al'ar, Taelan Fordring, Burning Blade Acolyte
4-cost: Disguised Wanderer, Fishy Flyer, Renowned Performer, Darkspear Berserker
3-cost: Educated Elekk, Razorfen Beastmaster, Teron Gorefiend, Death's Head Cultist
2-cost: Bloodmage Thalnos, Explosive Sheep, Loot Hoarder, Nerubian Egg, Rustsworn Initiate, Showstopper, Sneaky Delinquent, Razorboar
Updated list of synergy cards: Baron Rivendare, Vectus, Vengeful Spirit, Barrens Trapper
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Yay, more deathrattle.
DHs pls forget that OTK and aggro exist :p
potential, but so far not enough deathrattles to make this good
Good recruit DH card. Question is - can it be some DR DH decks now in meta
This deathrattle package isn't worth it. The only Demon Hunter we will see after rotation is OTK Demon Hunter.
Arena > Wild > Standard
omg
If you've built your deck correctly, a Blackthorn turn should be pretty big. I think he can work in a variety of decks so long as you have enough Deathrattle for him to pull from your deck. He thins your deck and provides you with a nice board presence. I wouldn't expect this to be a finisher, but it could be a very powerful Tempo play if you're willing to adjust your deck to accommodate him.
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A summoner of 3 minions
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powerful effect, sadly no worthy deathrattle minions for it
Very strong tempo card, can't wait to test it out!
Targeted draw is always a good thing. I know there are other cards that seem to promote deathrattle Demon Hunter. If I open this one, I might give that a try and see if it makes DH an interesting class (for me) to play.
Unfortunately, common sense isn't as common as it should be.
I don't understand why Team 5 felt demon hunters needed ANOTHER element in their class identity. They already have card draw, efficient direct damage, board control and combo potential.
Nice artwork
I think it's interesting that demon hunter is getting so much deathrattle support this expansion, yet the only deathrattle cards that it's getting are the cards that summon other deathrattle minions. This seems like a very good card from a value standpoint, but it will depend heavily on what other deathrattle cards you add to the deck, since you can't depend on demon hunter's own cards.
this deck will be good, especially with Baron Rivendare back
Maybe the only good Deathrattle DH card, still max of 4 stars.
Needs way more tools for this to work. The problem I have with this deck archetype is the cost limit on all of the effects. In my mind this wouldn't have been too powerful with no cost limit.
Okay card but will need some more deathrattle support in the next mini set and expansions.
Again, a great effect but the deck just doesn't seem like it works. I don't know what cards I'm supposed to be summoning with this.
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Interesting card. The Deathrattle we got in DH isn't great but even so it's 3 minions. Could be fun in wild.
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