Hakkar, the Soulflayer might be used in Burgle rogue or Pogo Rogue. Both decks like to shuffle something to an empty deck. Even Chef Nomi could be used in that deck. It sounded like Deck of Wonders, lol.
I'm not sure if it will work or not but i will try that.
You'd have to test that. Cards with "deathrattle: shuffle this into your deck" have odd and inconsistent interactions with double deathrattle triggers, presumably the same holds true for putting it back into your hand. I can easily imagine it only triggering once b/c there's only one card to put back into hand, or 2 scarabs 1 anub.
But even if we assume you get two Anub'araks back in hand, they'd be full cost so you'd probably never find the time to get them both into play.
Another Anka, the Buried maybe ? I'd like to use Shadowstep on Anka to decrease other deathrattles as well. Infinite nerubian loop. lol.
Well I don't think it gives 2 Anub'araks to your hand. When you double Youthful Brewmaster's battlecry, it gives only one. So "Return" can't be doubled in hearthstone in my experience. Also it would be awkward if it does because first one returns and there is nothing to return to your hand.
I need to build a infinite nerubian loop deck. That will be an awesome themed deck. might not work but sounds fun. :D
Usually giving your opponent Murlocs won't help them whatsoever.
You are giving them something when they had nothing. Even if it does nothing more than add 2 ATK to the board, you gave them that for free. It is almost never a negative for them.
Typical arena player response. :D
in ladder, they don't want to play it most likely because of they lose their calculated tempo. You are right about adding a little value to their hand but it is a murloc so this is still better than Tanglefur Mystic or Spellslinger. Aggro can conjure a benefit from it but I don't think a control or combo player wants this in hand. They stay at 8-9 cards holded most of the time and it may cause a card-burn.
in a mirror match as Murloc Shaman vs Murloc Shaman, playing this could be a nightmare for you.
Ok there might not be a card "Whenever you recruit a minion, restore 2 health to your hero or deal x dmg or sth like that" but if there was, Tip the Scales will do nothing to trigger it but Woecleaver would trigger it and he just pointed it out.
It is not A tempo card, it is a late game card like Omega Assembly.
And I really don't understand why most of people evaluates all of the revealed cards in the Light of current top tier decks. They are not designed to counter something. They are meant to be some packages for some decks. At least, not all of them is meant to counter current top tier decks. It is irritative to read "does nothing against cyclone Mage, mech hunter, bomb warrior, control warrior etc." under every revealed card.
It really bothers you so much to play against those decks? So, how did you achieve the rank that you can face always those decks? That means you 're also using those decks. If you really don't want to face those decks, stop using those decks and decrease its popularity by doing your part.
And sadly, highlander hunter's weak point is not generating cards, it is endurance and healing. As far as I know (im not an expert of wow) in wow, hunters can use a melee weapon and able to become bruiser. I don't really know it is fair or not but i think that a little armor generating can be given to hunters in hearthstone. It is the only class in hearthstone with so less defensive package. Rogue's have lifesteal weapons, even mage's have armor generating + secrets + freeze, warlock's have sacrifice. Secrets are Just not enough for hunter to be defensive, ı mean for control archetype. It always ended up as an aggressive deck base. Even secrrt hunter is an aggressive deck. Maybe something like Ice Barrier can be added to hunter, even playing dead should be A thing but not like Play Dead, A mechanic like Time Out! which the hero Enters a stasis mode to be pretended dead. It is a basic hunter mechanic in any game in the world.
Gladiator's Longbow is mechanically feels like really a ranged weapon, as much as Candleshot. It shouldn't be forgotten but must be balanced for aggro.
So, this card is ok, especially for my playstyle it looks so funny, but sadly this is not control hunter longs for. It needs some endurance, not generating more stuff. That's why Deathstalker Rexxar was/is/will be a must have card. Not Just for infinite value.
Well, you can say that Skulking Geist is a jade hate card and I can understand that but it also save people from Inner Fire bullshit, which is really frustrating to see from beta to 5th year.
As soon as it has gone to wild, Inner Fire decks appeared again.
I don't think Skulking Geist was only about Jade Druid. All Malygos decks are using 1-cost spells, Power Overwhelming was also a problematic card as a 1-cost card but it moved to HoF before Skulking Geist but it will be a solution to Power Overwhelming too like Conceal, Ice Lance or any other which i can't remember right now.
Like how mana cheating is a problematic mechanic for Hearthstone, Low costed - High Valued cards are also problematic too.
It can be said that almost all 1-cost minions can be problematic one day. Best example is Fire Fly. In the Year of the Mammoth, almost all decks have it. There are other problematic examples too,
Anyway, the subject here is Skulking Geist, I agree that it was created to counter Jade Idol but it was not a hate card. It is a simple tech card. Unlike you, I liked Skulking Geist's concept, I like its combo disruption + game plan disruption ability also a removal remover. I don't think that it ended as an Idol-Hate card.
The problem with my laptop is about Hearthstone Deck Tracker. not notepad files, if it was about notepad files, i would use that laptop as a picture frame, lol.
My laptop is old, that's why I'm using desktop already but well I can't use my desktop always. Sometimes I need to go another cities because of my job and I can't take my desktop with me, you know, real life issues.
btw to be honest, notepad files are more frustrating than waiting my laptop to response deck tracker. Searching and finding the decks i've created before takes time and every time i am going a different city, I need to resync my decks like job documents. That bothers me so much. I am playing this game for fun but I need to archive my decks like documenting which is so boring to do. What I'm asking for is just an in-game deck archive.
Btw, I am playing a bit different than you. Sometimes I'm creating 2 of same decks with a little difference. I am play-testing the decks myself instead of netdecking, i don't like netdecking so it takes a lot of deck space and when I deleted an old deck but newer one acts worse, i need to build that deck again. I am exporting the old deck from deck tracker. That takes really so much time always getting older decks from tracker to game.
Unlike most players, I don't like to play always same decks, almost every 3-4 days i am changing my decks, sometimes it became day by day. That's why I am longing for more slots.
Yeah, even deck archive can help a lot. I mean, creating decks from phone isn't so easy, my laptop's burning when I'm using hdt with hearthstone. It takes so much time to copy my older decks when I try it on a different device than my desktop pc. I mean, I can play 1 or 2 more games instead of trying to copy my older decks. I really can't get it why it is an issue tied to the core code. It is just slot or saving system or archive system. You don't even need a server for it, their information could be hold in documents file like any other single player game's save file. I really can't get it.
I just want to say that I have hard times to save my decks and tracking them from a notepad file or some add-on is hard for me while i am playing this game from my desktop, laptop and my phone.
I have opened a thread in Official Hearthstone forums for getting a response hopingly. So,
Please let them hear me, If you have some thoughts about this issue of me, comment it to let them hear me easier.
not a good example but Militia Commander is 4 mana rush gives no cards, +2 attack in comparison. 2/5 if there are no minions on board. They are different packages for different decks so Bazaar Mugger will do its job in Thief Rogue.
Don't evaluate the cards for only existing decks.
And, you can't compare this card with Zilliax, sorry but ALL you've tried to say is more garbage than Bazaar Mugger.
Myra's Unstable Element removes them. You can fill your deck with Togwaggle's Scheme and Academic Espionage afterwards.
Hakkar, the Soulflayer might be used in Burgle rogue or Pogo Rogue. Both decks like to shuffle something to an empty deck. Even Chef Nomi could be used in that deck. It sounded like Deck of Wonders, lol.
I'm not sure if it will work or not but i will try that.
hah, I got mine Fishflinger :P
Another Anka, the Buried maybe ? I'd like to use Shadowstep on Anka to decrease other deathrattles as well. Infinite nerubian loop. lol.
Well I don't think it gives 2 Anub'araks to your hand. When you double Youthful Brewmaster's battlecry, it gives only one. So "Return" can't be doubled in hearthstone in my experience. Also it would be awkward if it does because first one returns and there is nothing to return to your hand.
I need to build a infinite nerubian loop deck. That will be an awesome themed deck. might not work but sounds fun. :D
Typical arena player response. :D
in ladder, they don't want to play it most likely because of they lose their calculated tempo. You are right about adding a little value to their hand but it is a murloc so this is still better than Tanglefur Mystic or Spellslinger. Aggro can conjure a benefit from it but I don't think a control or combo player wants this in hand. They stay at 8-9 cards holded most of the time and it may cause a card-burn.
in a mirror match as Murloc Shaman vs Murloc Shaman, playing this could be a nightmare for you.
Don't give me fishes, teach me how to catch them !
no it is not.
Ok there might not be a card "Whenever you recruit a minion, restore 2 health to your hero or deal x dmg or sth like that" but if there was, Tip the Scales will do nothing to trigger it but Woecleaver would trigger it and he just pointed it out.
It is like Charged Devilsaur and Rush difference.
wow, another way to Hakkar, the Soulflayer which is one of my favorite Rogue decks.
+ you can fill your decks with Togwaggle's Scheme better than only Academic Espionage in RR times.
And it gives some more tempo than older version. Liked it.
Btw is it possible to get A neutral reveal already?
Emperor Thaurissan into Grommash Hellscream + 2x Inner Rage + Bloodsworn Mercenary = 28 dmg, 1 more tick for 1 more Bloodsworn Mercenary = 42 dmg.
This reminded me patron warrior and raging worgen so much.
This expansion is really designed for wild.
It is not A tempo card, it is a late game card like Omega Assembly.
And I really don't understand why most of people evaluates all of the revealed cards in the Light of current top tier decks. They are not designed to counter something. They are meant to be some packages for some decks. At least, not all of them is meant to counter current top tier decks. It is irritative to read "does nothing against cyclone Mage, mech hunter, bomb warrior, control warrior etc." under every revealed card.
It really bothers you so much to play against those decks? So, how did you achieve the rank that you can face always those decks? That means you 're also using those decks. If you really don't want to face those decks, stop using those decks and decrease its popularity by doing your part.
And sadly, highlander hunter's weak point is not generating cards, it is endurance and healing. As far as I know (im not an expert of wow) in wow, hunters can use a melee weapon and able to become bruiser. I don't really know it is fair or not but i think that a little armor generating can be given to hunters in hearthstone. It is the only class in hearthstone with so less defensive package. Rogue's have lifesteal weapons, even mage's have armor generating + secrets + freeze, warlock's have sacrifice. Secrets are Just not enough for hunter to be defensive, ı mean for control archetype. It always ended up as an aggressive deck base. Even secrrt hunter is an aggressive deck. Maybe something like Ice Barrier can be added to hunter, even playing dead should be A thing but not like Play Dead, A mechanic like Time Out! which the hero Enters a stasis mode to be pretended dead. It is a basic hunter mechanic in any game in the world.
Gladiator's Longbow is mechanically feels like really a ranged weapon, as much as Candleshot. It shouldn't be forgotten but must be balanced for aggro.
So, this card is ok, especially for my playstyle it looks so funny, but sadly this is not control hunter longs for. It needs some endurance, not generating more stuff. That's why Deathstalker Rexxar was/is/will be a must have card. Not Just for infinite value.
A whip weapon is coming and i guess it synergize with beasts, A taming weapon most likely.
I mean, I hope in that way. :)
Well, you can say that Skulking Geist is a jade hate card and I can understand that but it also save people from Inner Fire bullshit, which is really frustrating to see from beta to 5th year.
As soon as it has gone to wild, Inner Fire decks appeared again.
I don't think Skulking Geist was only about Jade Druid. All Malygos decks are using 1-cost spells, Power Overwhelming was also a problematic card as a 1-cost card but it moved to HoF before Skulking Geist but it will be a solution to Power Overwhelming too like Conceal, Ice Lance or any other which i can't remember right now.
it also deletes Shield Slam, all of Paladin Secrets, Evolve, Deadly Poison and Naturalize and other impactful cards which I can't remember right now. If it would stay in standard, it would also help against Crystology, Grim Rally, Magic Trick, Ray of Frost, and Togwaggle's Scheme.
Like how mana cheating is a problematic mechanic for Hearthstone, Low costed - High Valued cards are also problematic too.
It can be said that almost all 1-cost minions can be problematic one day. Best example is Fire Fly. In the Year of the Mammoth, almost all decks have it. There are other problematic examples too,
Undertaker, Mana Wyrm etc.
Anyway, the subject here is Skulking Geist, I agree that it was created to counter Jade Idol but it was not a hate card. It is a simple tech card. Unlike you, I liked Skulking Geist's concept, I like its combo disruption + game plan disruption ability also a removal remover. I don't think that it ended as an Idol-Hate card.
Hello Obliterate. Like other sticked spells, you have been sticked to a minion too.
The problem with my laptop is about Hearthstone Deck Tracker. not notepad files, if it was about notepad files, i would use that laptop as a picture frame, lol.
My laptop is old, that's why I'm using desktop already but well I can't use my desktop always. Sometimes I need to go another cities because of my job and I can't take my desktop with me, you know, real life issues.
btw to be honest, notepad files are more frustrating than waiting my laptop to response deck tracker. Searching and finding the decks i've created before takes time and every time i am going a different city, I need to resync my decks like job documents. That bothers me so much. I am playing this game for fun but I need to archive my decks like documenting which is so boring to do. What I'm asking for is just an in-game deck archive.
Btw, I am playing a bit different than you. Sometimes I'm creating 2 of same decks with a little difference. I am play-testing the decks myself instead of netdecking, i don't like netdecking so it takes a lot of deck space and when I deleted an old deck but newer one acts worse, i need to build that deck again. I am exporting the old deck from deck tracker. That takes really so much time always getting older decks from tracker to game.
Unlike most players, I don't like to play always same decks, almost every 3-4 days i am changing my decks, sometimes it became day by day. That's why I am longing for more slots.
In a set which has no-duplicate theme in it, this card made me thing only one thing, In-game duplicate system.
Someone already claimed that a card which clears duplicates in the deck can only make Highlander decks viable.
This card makes me thing that we might get cards like Mimic Pod. Un'goro is already one of the throwbacks of this set so it might be maybe?
I will try this in a quest rogue deck in wild, with 1/1 copy'ing + Conceal, it might be a meme-y TTK deck. :P
Ofc if i got them from packs, I don't think I will craft these. That's so meme-y even for me.
But Isn't this a card like Star Aligner and Naga Sea Witch which all think the card is garbage but breaks something in the game.
I'm sure some people will try to accomplish some broken stuff with this. Even I got my ideas.
Yeah, even deck archive can help a lot. I mean, creating decks from phone isn't so easy, my laptop's burning when I'm using hdt with hearthstone. It takes so much time to copy my older decks when I try it on a different device than my desktop pc. I mean, I can play 1 or 2 more games instead of trying to copy my older decks. I really can't get it why it is an issue tied to the core code. It is just slot or saving system or archive system. You don't even need a server for it, their information could be hold in documents file like any other single player game's save file. I really can't get it.
I just want to say that I have hard times to save my decks and tracking them from a notepad file or some add-on is hard for me while i am playing this game from my desktop, laptop and my phone.
I have opened a thread in Official Hearthstone forums for getting a response hopingly. So,
Please let them hear me, If you have some thoughts about this issue of me, comment it to let them hear me easier.
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/hearthstone/t/request-unlimited-deck-slots/1594
Also feel free to comment here about what you think.
not a good example but Militia Commander is 4 mana rush gives no cards, +2 attack in comparison. 2/5 if there are no minions on board. They are different packages for different decks so Bazaar Mugger will do its job in Thief Rogue.
Don't evaluate the cards for only existing decks.
And, you can't compare this card with Zilliax, sorry but ALL you've tried to say is more garbage than Bazaar Mugger.