I'm pretty sure they would already give something to Warlock to make this viable for at least first weeks. Some commons and rares, then easily nerf those cards without touching this Legendary card because this is nothing without support, not like any other stand-alone Legendary cards.
I will not be surprised if there's some cards like decrease cost of the spell or something, maybe it will even be for upcoming miniset with Warlock/Mage dual class card for also Big spell mage.
We will definitely see this becoming viable and the cards that supports this getting nerfed. Maybe not in release but on upcoming expansions this year, because this is that type of a card.
So your opponent has two big minions + several smaller ones. This thing may well just cast polymorph, hit the wrong target and get you screwed. Or it'll cast flamestrike, killing the smaller dudes while leaving two giants on board. And in any case, since it activates at the end of the turn, it'll always be a coin toss as to whether you can trust it to do the right thing, or dealing with the threats yourself.
On curve, you might be right but for end game, 4 mana is enough to do extra stuff to help it out to deal with the extra threats that you describe.
Saving your arse ? it has 6 durability which means your opponent can't fill their board for "6 turns" without destroying this thing knowing that it will cast Flamestrike again and again or they just can't play a big minion and sit back like Ragnaros for example because of Polymorph for 6 turns. It is even good enough to play on an empty board for free secrets and draws and i think 6-mana for a 5/5 draw two cards is good enough for an empty board.
It is a disruptor more than an arse savior. Like secrets which you know there is a counterspell or minion counter and you have to sacrifice sth.
I might be overestimating the card but you re also definitely underestimated there too.
Somehow "expensive" control decks has seen nerfs less than those rare/common cards. I really wonder why !?
They justify that as if they made a decision against mill. You can't expect them to say "Hey, we just can't give you 1600 free dust just because we are against mill on competitive side of the game. Also the card is just so new, let people play and we nerf it after a new expansion comes, just like we did on Tickatus"
How you fall into this tactic is beyond me tho. Yeah, I surely bought that hiding behind that decision, they are surely against "uninteractive and unfun to play against decks". Poor rare and common cards are always those.
Insincere and dishonest. "Hey we care our community, look we nerfed Dew Process but you can still do that with Boomboss or patchwerk, you can steal max health of your opponent with The Azerite Snake, they are not uninteractive or unfun, but Dew process was..."
Don't get me wrong, I am fully against killing cards by nerfing them, but if you say that you have a decision, you have to treat all the same. They simply think they can make a fool of us and we bought these claptraps. well seems like you did tho.
In a game with no "casual" or "just for fun" mode. ok.
and when casual mode existed before, there was only bots and people who tries to complete quests and concedes, or people who tries their "competitive" decks there, so why people can't play their "just for fun" decks in a competitive way ?
You can't deny a complete archetype from ladder, you shouldn't. Well, if you do, you can't balance the game completely and people can climb with their %80 win rate Highlander warrior because that archetype is counter of another.
Shitty decisions.
Oh btw, somehow, Boomboss Tho'grun or Symphony of Sins or Patchwerk can't count as mill when they are control cards right so they shouldn't nerf them? same was for Tickatus. They are winning with those cards but they are not mill decks, they are controls... When a deck is complete mill it is problem but when win condition is milling it is not ? That's the weirdest shit in the universe.
It was always like that, people just wanted to play on PC instead of buying Nintendos just for pokemon. It was like buying a console for 2 generations of pokemon games. In addition, this is like Don't Starve + Fallout Shelter + Pokemon in one game.
It is a game that you like having it on library and play whenever you want or start over whenever you want like Don't Starve. I hope they improve it more. Random maps might be cool after playing bunch of games the current map for example.
It was silliness of me to think like that tho, Plaguespreader transformed Vashj into another Plaguespreader it is probably due to rulesets of handbuff etc. but it would be so cool if she would summon it instead. I would like to try The Stars Align too but i need someone with Vashj for that in duel mode.
I played almost all top mobas from day 1 for like 3 - 4 years. Even 10 years some; DotA 1, LoL, HoN, HoTS, Smite. I quit playing mobas mostly. Nowadays, when i feel like i want to play moba occasionally, i login to HoTS every time for some aram matches.
I guess that's why gaming world returned to single player products at the first place and that's why they are more successful than online ones. There are just so much online games that people already keep playing and Time is the inevitable limited resource. I mean a day is already 24 hours, there are more good games than a person can play daily. Single player games at least finishes at some point but online games are becoming addictions in time so people just don't and can't even try newer online games.
Look at us, for how many years are we playing Hearthstone now ? We can't just let it go because of our progression etc. It is lke sunk cost but for time instead of money.
That's also why online games like GTA Online etc. also successful. Their progression is like that if you stop playing for 2-3 years you are not losing anything at all when you would return unlike mmorpgs. Some companies aware of that some like this one not it seems.
These all are personal opinions though but i feel like they are close to facts.
Happy because after all those leaks, we have finally an official data and release date(ish)
Sad because I don't use consoles and there are still at least 2 or 3 years for the actual release for me.
Can't wait to see some gameplay trailer tho. My expectations about game systems and mechanics like new inventory system etc. are huge after the leaks. I hope they had not change those drastically. I mean, I don't like to take my rocket launcher out from my ass. Bag as car like how it is on RDR 2 is great if you ask me and also grabbing some hostages, even robbing them with some threats might be great in a GTA world. I don't even know why these were not things until sixth game.
Anyways, my hopes are high. I am expecting a good game. I don't even mind if graphics are bad or good. Some people claims that trailer is CGI but I don't think so. Rockstar never did that before. Also, even if it is CGI, my expectations about GTA were never related to graphics.
Anyways, this took longer than i anticipated. I am just looking for gameplay trailers now.
Personally speaking, I came when hearthpwn stuff happened and one of the first members of the site. I am not actively commenting anymore because of general online decisions. I am finding myself in some awkward discussions and i can't sense why people comment anymore because online world changed drastically in time. I was used to see geniune comments but nowadays people writes they don't think sometimes, trolling etc. so i stopped commenting but i am visiting almost on a daily basis.
If i have to come in the discussion of the change of ooc into oog, I'm quite happy with it because I already love this site and staff and articles they created and now I don't have to visit other websites to at least to be heard about some other games, releases etc. It is my personal thoughts and i tried to introduce this website my irl friends/family etc.
That being said it is not just about how you guys succeed or not. There's the behavioral truth that people don't tend to change their habits, especially when it comes to daily-basis stuff. I introduced this website a lot of people, they loved it, followed for a week then they just forgot about it and went back to their main website/source to check about games. Almost all did the same unfortunately. I can give a deeper example of my brother. We are living in same house, he knows I'm following this site on a daily-basis. He likes the site, likes the articles, likes the stuff how and what you guys are promoting but because of his habits he just follows other game news websites and forgets about it and when i say him "you can check these all on OOG" he returns me as "oh , there was a site like that, wasn't there ?" every once in a month.
So my conclusion is that, You are in a very hard competition with other game news sites and with all my respects people just forget what happens here even if they love them. There needs to be something to remember in my opinion. We older guys are visiting the site on a daily basis because we just remember you and how you were as we moved here from Hearthpwn together. Your case with Hearthpwn was also our case and we didn't like how they act so we moved here together so that binded us with you in a way that new people here can't understand or care. That's good for us and you guys but isn't enough to expand the website. Newer people never going to know nor they will or should care and they are never going to embrace or be attached to this site as once we had so there needs to be something more.
There are a lot of people in online world who might even to not like the site just because "Your card game enthusiast community" is written under Out of Games if you want to stick with "All game titles" idea for example. I know that there are all kinds of people and you can't act according to those types but there needs to be a general base of the appeal.
So, In my honest opinion, Hearthpwn stuff should be forgotten and you guys should keep moving on the idea of "what can we do to be more recognizable and rememberable." The "rememberable" part is the most important one in my opinion because of what i have experienced when i try to introduce this website to people I know. They like it and forget it. The key part is that with all my respects of course.
Keep up with your good work. I love to be part of this website even i don't comment more than I used to !
I don't think we or authorities which creates award events should reward remasters or remakes. It sounds weird to me to give an award to a game that already took the same award before. It might sound like all-star awards between good old games but didn't we already do that before. Let's talk about an example and pretend like we awarded a game with a game of the year reward. Giving the same game Remaster of the year simply is the same reward.
It might sound weird to you but I even don't think remastering should exist and/or should be promoted by community. In my opinion, these promotes are stonewalling the posibilities of new and unique products. I mean, gaming world already is so limited with original ideas, games around have already same mechanics with a little different tweaks. Most of unique games come from indie world nowadays, most of AAA games are simply use either old and boring system/mechanics or same system/mechanics with another AAA product and my concerns I talked about above step in this exact point. Most of remakes and remasters are old AAA games. Promoting and rewarding these causes two bad things in my opinion; first is, it promotes old systems/mechanics so community wants more of them and people get same games with new cosmetics like an undead with make-up which is rotten inside but beautiful to look at. Second, game companies starts to make more remakes and remasters or they create new games with systems/mechanics those remakes or old games have because it can be sold easier than a new unique system/mechanic because they were embraced and loved before. You can understand that, it is a simple human behavior to abstain from unknown.
I think this is also a bit about new generation vs. old generation people. You can make a little search and find tons of comments/threads in manners as "the real mmo was runescape, the games you are playing now are not really mmos" etc. or vice versa like "Stick with your rusty old games with old technology while we play betters" etc. So old guys want their old games back with new tech, and young guys have no problem with old games as soon as they have new tech and it causes my concerns become problems. They and I all are playing old systems and mechanics with new cosmetics and in my opinion that's bad for ecosystem of gaming world.
This situation here is same with graphics card issue. Today, you can play almost all games with ultra quality on 1080p with a middle or worse tier card and we all know that most generic way of gaming is 1080p but 2k/4k gaming happened and it is a complete shit show in my opinion.Gaming companies creates technologies for 4k and tries to market that. There is no tech leap for better quality. Sources of gamers (which is either your devices' raw power/ability and your money) goes to 4k instead of better visual systems. There is the technology to create almost realistic CGI but we can't see them in gameplay because we need to spend our resources to 4k. This is a pitiful marketing trick and i really hate it so much.
So, remakes and remasters does the same thing to systems and mechanics as what 4k does to graphics technology. It causes a loop to make us play the same thing over and over again. It is easier for companies to remake games instead of creating new and risky ideas and I honestly think that we shouldn't promote them if we want new cool systems or mechanics or even new genres.
Don't get me wrong, if i was 18 years old and never played an old game before and want to try that, i also want it to have new tech so remakes have that opportunity, young people can enjoy what an old guy enjoyed before but there should be a limit in my opinion.
I'm 32 years old, if you give me a The Might&Magic: Heroes III remake, i can play it for a year now but I faced the truth that if i stuck my old enjoyements, I can never taste newer ones so we should let it go and give a chance to new and unique stuff. We must be brave if we want to see development and growth in technologies and systems. Think about a planet with its natives. If you have better technology to go there, you will invade it, you will name it like they didn't, you will educate them and assimilate them like they have no history, like what Europe did on natives of Americas before. If you don't, they will do the same to you.
This remakes and remasters delay and milk us. We deserve new unique games and genres with better systems and mechanics instead of undeads with make-up.
I'm pretty sure they would already give something to Warlock to make this viable for at least first weeks. Some commons and rares, then easily nerf those cards without touching this Legendary card because this is nothing without support, not like any other stand-alone Legendary cards.
I will not be surprised if there's some cards like decrease cost of the spell or something, maybe it will even be for upcoming miniset with Warlock/Mage dual class card for also Big spell mage.
We will definitely see this becoming viable and the cards that supports this getting nerfed. Maybe not in release but on upcoming expansions this year, because this is that type of a card.
Sure, anything against control is toxic, ok...
But yeah, they will nerf it because they don't want mill to be competitive, even it is milling yourself, lol.
On curve, you might be right but for end game, 4 mana is enough to do extra stuff to help it out to deal with the extra threats that you describe.
Saving your arse ? it has 6 durability which means your opponent can't fill their board for "6 turns" without destroying this thing knowing that it will cast Flamestrike again and again or they just can't play a big minion and sit back like Ragnaros for example because of Polymorph for 6 turns. It is even good enough to play on an empty board for free secrets and draws and i think 6-mana for a 5/5 draw two cards is good enough for an empty board.
It is a disruptor more than an arse savior. Like secrets which you know there is a counterspell or minion counter and you have to sacrifice sth.
I might be overestimating the card but you re also definitely underestimated there too.
It is just an insincerity of how they treat Boomboss Tho'grun and Dew Process.
Somehow "expensive" control decks has seen nerfs less than those rare/common cards. I really wonder why !?
They justify that as if they made a decision against mill. You can't expect them to say "Hey, we just can't give you 1600 free dust just because we are against mill on competitive side of the game. Also the card is just so new, let people play and we nerf it after a new expansion comes, just like we did on Tickatus"
How you fall into this tactic is beyond me tho. Yeah, I surely bought that hiding behind that decision, they are surely against "uninteractive and unfun to play against decks". Poor rare and common cards are always those.
Insincere and dishonest. "Hey we care our community, look we nerfed Dew Process but you can still do that with Boomboss or patchwerk, you can steal max health of your opponent with The Azerite Snake, they are not uninteractive or unfun, but Dew process was..."
Don't get me wrong, I am fully against killing cards by nerfing them, but if you say that you have a decision, you have to treat all the same. They simply think they can make a fool of us and we bought these claptraps. well seems like you did tho.
In a game with no "casual" or "just for fun" mode. ok.
and when casual mode existed before, there was only bots and people who tries to complete quests and concedes, or people who tries their "competitive" decks there, so why people can't play their "just for fun" decks in a competitive way ?
That decision of blizz is ridiculous if you ask me. It's nothing different to lose to The Azerite Snake or Boomboss Tho'grun or mill.
At least mill is more creative than Astalor, the Flamebringer. How many times we saw the same finisher in 10 years? Sire Denathrius ? C'Thun ?
You can't deny a complete archetype from ladder, you shouldn't. Well, if you do, you can't balance the game completely and people can climb with their %80 win rate Highlander warrior because that archetype is counter of another.
Shitty decisions.
Oh btw, somehow, Boomboss Tho'grun or Symphony of Sins or Patchwerk can't count as mill when they are control cards right so they shouldn't nerf them? same was for Tickatus. They are winning with those cards but they are not mill decks, they are controls... When a deck is complete mill it is problem but when win condition is milling it is not ? That's the weirdest shit in the universe.
It was always like that, people just wanted to play on PC instead of buying Nintendos just for pokemon. It was like buying a console for 2 generations of pokemon games. In addition, this is like Don't Starve + Fallout Shelter + Pokemon in one game.
It is a game that you like having it on library and play whenever you want or start over whenever you want like Don't Starve. I hope they improve it more. Random maps might be cool after playing bunch of games the current map for example.
2 armor too sometimes
Well, that was a fast test on practice mode.
It was silliness of me to think like that tho, Plaguespreader transformed Vashj into another Plaguespreader it is probably due to rulesets of handbuff etc. but it would be so cool if she would summon it instead. I would like to try The Stars Align too but i need someone with Vashj for that in duel mode.
JIVE, INSECT! and Hex summoned Ragnaros the Firelord and the Frog tho. Probably Polymorph also would summon Sheep since it works like Hex.
I would love Baroness Vashj could summon 7-cost minions from hand due to a bug. :D
or maybe it is intended ? She can never be transformed i guess. Did anyone tried to Polymorph or Hex her ?
or i can test it with JIVE, INSECT! or even Plaguespreader for hand stuff i guess.
Yaaay armor for everyone, first priest now Shaman, let's break class identity even more...
Also , Mana Tide Totem cries in the corner
The Stars Align would be better comparison.
The Azerite Murloc = The Stars Align + for deck and battlefield.
I can't really decide on which is more disturbing, Ramp Druid or Token Druid;
and in every set it is one or the other...
I played almost all top mobas from day 1 for like 3 - 4 years. Even 10 years some; DotA 1, LoL, HoN, HoTS, Smite. I quit playing mobas mostly. Nowadays, when i feel like i want to play moba occasionally, i login to HoTS every time for some aram matches.
I feel you, we are too old for mobas. :P
I guess that's why gaming world returned to single player products at the first place and that's why they are more successful than online ones. There are just so much online games that people already keep playing and Time is the inevitable limited resource. I mean a day is already 24 hours, there are more good games than a person can play daily. Single player games at least finishes at some point but online games are becoming addictions in time so people just don't and can't even try newer online games.
Look at us, for how many years are we playing Hearthstone now ? We can't just let it go because of our progression etc. It is lke sunk cost but for time instead of money.
That's also why online games like GTA Online etc. also successful. Their progression is like that if you stop playing for 2-3 years you are not losing anything at all when you would return unlike mmorpgs. Some companies aware of that some like this one not it seems.
These all are personal opinions though but i feel like they are close to facts.
As expected; Baldur's Gate III swept up the awards.
I'm happy and sad at the same time;
Happy because after all those leaks, we have finally an official data and release date(ish)
Sad because I don't use consoles and there are still at least 2 or 3 years for the actual release for me.
Can't wait to see some gameplay trailer tho. My expectations about game systems and mechanics like new inventory system etc. are huge after the leaks. I hope they had not change those drastically. I mean, I don't like to take my rocket launcher out from my ass. Bag as car like how it is on RDR 2 is great if you ask me and also grabbing some hostages, even robbing them with some threats might be great in a GTA world. I don't even know why these were not things until sixth game.
Anyways, my hopes are high. I am expecting a good game. I don't even mind if graphics are bad or good. Some people claims that trailer is CGI but I don't think so. Rockstar never did that before. Also, even if it is CGI, my expectations about GTA were never related to graphics.
Anyways, this took longer than i anticipated. I am just looking for gameplay trailers now.
Personally speaking, I came when hearthpwn stuff happened and one of the first members of the site. I am not actively commenting anymore because of general online decisions. I am finding myself in some awkward discussions and i can't sense why people comment anymore because online world changed drastically in time. I was used to see geniune comments but nowadays people writes they don't think sometimes, trolling etc. so i stopped commenting but i am visiting almost on a daily basis.
If i have to come in the discussion of the change of ooc into oog, I'm quite happy with it because I already love this site and staff and articles they created and now I don't have to visit other websites to at least to be heard about some other games, releases etc. It is my personal thoughts and i tried to introduce this website my irl friends/family etc.
That being said it is not just about how you guys succeed or not. There's the behavioral truth that people don't tend to change their habits, especially when it comes to daily-basis stuff. I introduced this website a lot of people, they loved it, followed for a week then they just forgot about it and went back to their main website/source to check about games. Almost all did the same unfortunately. I can give a deeper example of my brother. We are living in same house, he knows I'm following this site on a daily-basis. He likes the site, likes the articles, likes the stuff how and what you guys are promoting but because of his habits he just follows other game news websites and forgets about it and when i say him "you can check these all on OOG" he returns me as "oh , there was a site like that, wasn't there ?" every once in a month.
So my conclusion is that, You are in a very hard competition with other game news sites and with all my respects people just forget what happens here even if they love them. There needs to be something to remember in my opinion. We older guys are visiting the site on a daily basis because we just remember you and how you were as we moved here from Hearthpwn together. Your case with Hearthpwn was also our case and we didn't like how they act so we moved here together so that binded us with you in a way that new people here can't understand or care. That's good for us and you guys but isn't enough to expand the website. Newer people never going to know nor they will or should care and they are never going to embrace or be attached to this site as once we had so there needs to be something more.
There are a lot of people in online world who might even to not like the site just because "Your card game enthusiast community" is written under Out of Games if you want to stick with "All game titles" idea for example. I know that there are all kinds of people and you can't act according to those types but there needs to be a general base of the appeal.
So, In my honest opinion, Hearthpwn stuff should be forgotten and you guys should keep moving on the idea of "what can we do to be more recognizable and rememberable." The "rememberable" part is the most important one in my opinion because of what i have experienced when i try to introduce this website to people I know. They like it and forget it. The key part is that with all my respects of course.
Keep up with your good work. I love to be part of this website even i don't comment more than I used to !
None in my opinion.
I don't think we or authorities which creates award events should reward remasters or remakes. It sounds weird to me to give an award to a game that already took the same award before. It might sound like all-star awards between good old games but didn't we already do that before. Let's talk about an example and pretend like we awarded a game with a game of the year reward. Giving the same game Remaster of the year simply is the same reward.
It might sound weird to you but I even don't think remastering should exist and/or should be promoted by community. In my opinion, these promotes are stonewalling the posibilities of new and unique products. I mean, gaming world already is so limited with original ideas, games around have already same mechanics with a little different tweaks. Most of unique games come from indie world nowadays, most of AAA games are simply use either old and boring system/mechanics or same system/mechanics with another AAA product and my concerns I talked about above step in this exact point. Most of remakes and remasters are old AAA games. Promoting and rewarding these causes two bad things in my opinion; first is, it promotes old systems/mechanics so community wants more of them and people get same games with new cosmetics like an undead with make-up which is rotten inside but beautiful to look at. Second, game companies starts to make more remakes and remasters or they create new games with systems/mechanics those remakes or old games have because it can be sold easier than a new unique system/mechanic because they were embraced and loved before. You can understand that, it is a simple human behavior to abstain from unknown.
I think this is also a bit about new generation vs. old generation people. You can make a little search and find tons of comments/threads in manners as "the real mmo was runescape, the games you are playing now are not really mmos" etc. or vice versa like "Stick with your rusty old games with old technology while we play betters" etc. So old guys want their old games back with new tech, and young guys have no problem with old games as soon as they have new tech and it causes my concerns become problems. They and I all are playing old systems and mechanics with new cosmetics and in my opinion that's bad for ecosystem of gaming world.
This situation here is same with graphics card issue. Today, you can play almost all games with ultra quality on 1080p with a middle or worse tier card and we all know that most generic way of gaming is 1080p but 2k/4k gaming happened and it is a complete shit show in my opinion.Gaming companies creates technologies for 4k and tries to market that. There is no tech leap for better quality. Sources of gamers (which is either your devices' raw power/ability and your money) goes to 4k instead of better visual systems. There is the technology to create almost realistic CGI but we can't see them in gameplay because we need to spend our resources to 4k. This is a pitiful marketing trick and i really hate it so much.
So, remakes and remasters does the same thing to systems and mechanics as what 4k does to graphics technology. It causes a loop to make us play the same thing over and over again. It is easier for companies to remake games instead of creating new and risky ideas and I honestly think that we shouldn't promote them if we want new cool systems or mechanics or even new genres.
Don't get me wrong, if i was 18 years old and never played an old game before and want to try that, i also want it to have new tech so remakes have that opportunity, young people can enjoy what an old guy enjoyed before but there should be a limit in my opinion.
I'm 32 years old, if you give me a The Might&Magic: Heroes III remake, i can play it for a year now but I faced the truth that if i stuck my old enjoyements, I can never taste newer ones so we should let it go and give a chance to new and unique stuff. We must be brave if we want to see development and growth in technologies and systems. Think about a planet with its natives. If you have better technology to go there, you will invade it, you will name it like they didn't, you will educate them and assimilate them like they have no history, like what Europe did on natives of Americas before. If you don't, they will do the same to you.
This remakes and remasters delay and milk us. We deserve new unique games and genres with better systems and mechanics instead of undeads with make-up.
So, Priest's theme is 2 in 1 ?