I think a major problem could be that the Murlocs lock your own board when they are summoned. That way you give your opponent basically two turns to either kill you or prepare to clear the (hopefully buffed by then) Murlocs. I do like how the "Call" gives a flavorful explanation to the "next turn" trigger though.
Neoguli
It's an interesting idea, but I don't feel much flavor here. Maybe it would work out if you added an explanation to the card… How are the Code and the "next turn" effect coming together?
Wailor
Better, I like it!
AnAngryBadger
I really like The Coming Storm, cool idea. Maybe you can find some better art for it though?
Nirast
I think you'd need to add "copy" like in Azalina's text or one might think you're stealing the opponent's hand :D I like the flavor between the name and the effect, but I don't see why it should trigger next turn. The artwork looks a bit strange to me.
The fact that everybody can do this and seemingly can do this NOW looks significant. Pretty sure it has to do something with the Core set, Mankrik and/or Battlegrounds. I'd be very surprised if none of those parts was related to BG. That might also be the part that is difficult on mobile. Blood Gem APM stuff?
Book of Mercs might also be a part, but only Rokara's story.
Life has got me busy right now, but I've found some time to think about a new design. Here's what I'd like to do:
I've contacted Shadows to inquire of "Spend all your Mana" is a DQ because we're not allowed to use effects that trigger on the turn the card is played. I argue that it is a flexible cost and no "real" effect. We'll see. I'll definitely go with a meditation-flavored card since that's a good reason to make the effect trigger one turn later. Too sad we don't have a Monk class in HS (yet?). What do you think?
Whoops. Yes, it is. I wasn't happy with it anyway.
Feedback time!
In general, I can only repeat what I think I have picked up from one of the devs: Spells that trigger next turn and don't affect the board in any visual way are a bit problematic because it's easy to forget about them. I can't think of an example that breaks this rule of thumb from the top of my head. This issue comes up with all the cards in this thread so far.
Neoguli
I do think it wouldn't qualify because the prompt specifically states "your spell shouldn't have any other effect but one that happens at the start of your next turn". That said, I like the flavor of the card.
Demon
Really hard to determine the cost… I think I'd draw the line at 4 Mana which prevents Spellstone shenanigans and make this a stronger Vargoth in Wild's Big Priest. Other than that, cool card!
grumpymonk
Cool card, I like it!
linkblade
Nice idea, I like that kind of card. The one thing that is a bit off is that the "Charge" in the name doesn't work out with "Rush" in the effect. But maybe that even happened on purpose?
Nirast
Nice idea, but I agree, the art isn't great. The text box looks a bit crowded as well. The effect looks strong but fun.
TheHoax91
I'm sorry but I don't like these time turner effects. The tiny bit of useful feedback I can give is that the comma in the third line should be removed.
Wailor
Grim Fortune is quite flavorful and strong at the same time. Maybe it's even too good at 4 Mana if you compare it to other AOE cards in Priest. It would defintely powercreep Mass Hysteria since that one doesn't guarantee a board clear. Out of your two ideas I think I prefer Smart Investment anyways. Evaluating the power level is hard, but I'm leaning towards making it cost 2 Mana. It would still be better than Conjure Mana Biscuit in a class that is better at utilizing the potential of both the Mana gain and the Combo potential.
I think I remember one of the devs said that a major trait of sigils is the symbol over your hero, just like secrets or quests. This is supposed to be important because they don't have an immediate effect and they wanted to keep a visual reminder on the battlefield that something is about to happen. Since sigils are DH only and secrets are out, I'll try to come up with an enchantment like Corrupting Mist. Here's my initial idea:
I think the delay of the effect allows me to give hard removal to Hunter. Very hard to tell how it compares to Deadly Shot, that very much depends upon the board state. I'm not too happy with the art yet, still looking for something like Hunter's Mark.
Teron Gorefiend is a really strong card in this deck as well. I'm using almost the same list and got my win 12 ranked games in a row achievement with it yesterday :)
Thank you. I've edited my quote as well, since that doesn't happen automatically when you change the original. I hope we're cool, I didn't want to offend you and asking for an edit seemed worth a try instead of straight out reporting the post.
Nice one, thanks for sharing! The Marsh Queen was my first golden legendary back in the days and I've played it quite a lot. I ran double Elven Archer instead of Emerald Skytalon and two copies of Toxmonger, but I guess that's too slow for today's wild. Just recrafted the quest to try out your list - great nostalgia!
Has someone played Darkest Hour Warlock recently? It took me to legend just a day before it got nerfed last year, but I'm curious if it might still be good. The big question is if the combo can be pulled of on 6 consistently. If so, this would be a nice counter to Priest and Mage.
Thanks for featuring my deck! I actually was only tinkering around with the deckbuilder because I was a little frustrated that there isn't a viable Big Demon Hunter list around yet. I'd be more than happy to adjust the deck if someone has an idea of how this might work out.
Maybe it's time to try out Wild, Kaladin. Decks are so optimized there that you will hopefully find one that is fun for you and has a positive winrate. It doesn't have to be tier 1 either, you just need to know it very well which is easy if you like it. I've piloted a Deathrattle Hunter list to Diamond 2 several months in a row, then Odd Rogue to D1 (with less than 200 ranked wins with Valeera), then Odd Paladin to legend. What I'm trying to say is that Wild has a less volatile meta and I'm starting to think that what you are looking for is a deck that you like and that is somewhat competitive. I asume you've been playing long enough to be able to afford to craft at least one viable deck, the most expensive highlander lists left alone for the moment. So what are you enjoying in Hearthstone? From your dislike of Face Hunter lists I gather it isn't aggro (which is a shame because you'd learn the true beauty of aggro in Wild, but I digress) and you want to use your brain piloting the deck. That means Token Druid, Big Priest, Odd Demon Hunter, Pirate Warrior and Reno lists are out. From personal experience I can recommend the aforementioned Deathrattle Hunter (such a joy to mess around with Albatross, Sylvanas and Tonks), Odd Rogue, Kingsbane Rogue, Handbuff Paladin and Even Mage. If you're interested in any of those I can provide decklists.
Hmmmm. We could try. There are just a few things I'd like to point out beforehand:
I'd like to make sure that the staff is fine with this.
Whoever organizes the tournament gets to make the rules. In my case, that means I won't negotiate the time frame for example. If I say it's Saturday between 8 and 10pm CEST, that's the date and I won't debate whether we can start an hour later or something.
Validation will mostly be based on honesty. I imagine something like the winner notifying the organizer via Discord (maybe we can have our own channel?), the latter updates the tournament sheet on OOC. So the base assumption is that we're all honest people and don't need proof. Screenshots would only be needed if someone wanted to challenge the claim of someone else.
No prizes. We're playing for fun and internet fame only.
That would sum up my most important conditions if I was to organize a tournament. Now let's see who'd be interested to participate! If you are, please post your server and the mode you'd like to play (Classic / Standard / Wild). If we get together more than 10 people by Sunday, the second of May, I'll start a seperate thread to work out the details with all the interested people. I'll start:
anchorm4n - EU, Standard and Wild.
[side note: Flux, we could use a poll function. Pretty please?]
The fact that everybody can do this and seemingly can do this NOW looks significant. Pretty sure it has to do something with the Core set, Mankrik and/or Battlegrounds. I'd be very surprised if none of those parts was related to BG. That might also be the part that is difficult on mobile. Blood Gem APM stuff?
Book of Mercs might also be a part, but only Rokara's story.
Life has got me busy right now, but I've found some time to think about a new design. Here's what I'd like to do:
I've contacted Shadows to inquire of "Spend all your Mana" is a DQ because we're not allowed to use effects that trigger on the turn the card is played. I argue that it is a flexible cost and no "real" effect. We'll see. I'll definitely go with a meditation-flavored card since that's a good reason to make the effect trigger one turn later. Too sad we don't have a Monk class in HS (yet?). What do you think?
I'll add more feedback soonish.
Whoops. Yes, it is. I wasn't happy with it anyway.
Feedback time!
In general, I can only repeat what I think I have picked up from one of the devs: Spells that trigger next turn and don't affect the board in any visual way are a bit problematic because it's easy to forget about them. I can't think of an example that breaks this rule of thumb from the top of my head. This issue comes up with all the cards in this thread so far.
I think I remember one of the devs said that a major trait of sigils is the symbol over your hero, just like secrets or quests. This is supposed to be important because they don't have an immediate effect and they wanted to keep a visual reminder on the battlefield that something is about to happen. Since sigils are DH only and secrets are out, I'll try to come up with an enchantment like Corrupting Mist. Here's my initial idea:
I think the delay of the effect allows me to give hard removal to Hunter. Very hard to tell how it compares to Deadly Shot, that very much depends upon the board state. I'm not too happy with the art yet, still looking for something like Hunter's Mark.
Thank you very much! And a special thanks to KANSAS who was a big help forming my initial idea into its final design!
Teron Gorefiend is a really strong card in this deck as well. I'm using almost the same list and got my win 12 ranked games in a row achievement with it yesterday :)
Thank you. I've edited my quote as well, since that doesn't happen automatically when you change the original. I hope we're cool, I didn't want to offend you and asking for an edit seemed worth a try instead of straight out reporting the post.
I know this is the salt thread, but the first paragraph crossed the line imho. Please be so kind and edit or delete that.
Nice one, thanks for sharing! The Marsh Queen was my first golden legendary back in the days and I've played it quite a lot. I ran double Elven Archer instead of Emerald Skytalon and two copies of Toxmonger, but I guess that's too slow for today's wild. Just recrafted the quest to try out your list - great nostalgia!
Okay, after the first 5 games it looks like Bloodbloom is too slow at 4. The deck is good against APM Mage and bad against anything else.
Has someone played Darkest Hour Warlock recently? It took me to legend just a day before it got nerfed last year, but I'm curious if it might still be good. The big question is if the combo can be pulled of on 6 consistently. If so, this would be a nice counter to Priest and Mage.
Thanks for featuring my deck! I actually was only tinkering around with the deckbuilder because I was a little frustrated that there isn't a viable Big Demon Hunter list around yet. I'd be more than happy to adjust the deck if someone has an idea of how this might work out.
So he's basically asking me to play APM Mage if I want to get rid of it? That's so evil!
Maybe it's time to try out Wild, Kaladin. Decks are so optimized there that you will hopefully find one that is fun for you and has a positive winrate. It doesn't have to be tier 1 either, you just need to know it very well which is easy if you like it. I've piloted a Deathrattle Hunter list to Diamond 2 several months in a row, then Odd Rogue to D1 (with less than 200 ranked wins with Valeera), then Odd Paladin to legend. What I'm trying to say is that Wild has a less volatile meta and I'm starting to think that what you are looking for is a deck that you like and that is somewhat competitive. I asume you've been playing long enough to be able to afford to craft at least one viable deck, the most expensive highlander lists left alone for the moment. So what are you enjoying in Hearthstone? From your dislike of Face Hunter lists I gather it isn't aggro (which is a shame because you'd learn the true beauty of aggro in Wild, but I digress) and you want to use your brain piloting the deck. That means Token Druid, Big Priest, Odd Demon Hunter, Pirate Warrior and Reno lists are out. From personal experience I can recommend the aforementioned Deathrattle Hunter (such a joy to mess around with Albatross, Sylvanas and Tonks), Odd Rogue, Kingsbane Rogue, Handbuff Paladin and Even Mage. If you're interested in any of those I can provide decklists.
Aaaaaaw they've made a card for me <3
Oh and sorry Neoguli for capturing your thread!
Hmmmm. We could try. There are just a few things I'd like to point out beforehand:
That would sum up my most important conditions if I was to organize a tournament. Now let's see who'd be interested to participate! If you are, please post your server and the mode you'd like to play (Classic / Standard / Wild). If we get together more than 10 people by Sunday, the second of May, I'll start a seperate thread to work out the details with all the interested people. I'll start:
anchorm4n - EU, Standard and Wild.
[side note: Flux, we could use a poll function. Pretty please?]
Solar Eclipse?
That's correct :)