Looks like a slow start into the week... I'm sorry if I suggested a difficult theme again. I thought designing OP cards would be fun :(
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grumpymonk
Again, I hope you don't mind my own Demon Hunter card. Please tell me if you'd feel better if I went with something else. That said, what makes both our cards dangerous is the combo potential with Il'gynoth. While mine is somewhat limited because the cost of the Demons would still have to be paid, your card allows preparation via Weapons and is way cheaper. I do have to conceed that your card has much better flavor thanks to your great choice of its character. If we're lucky, Il'gynoth will get nerfed this week. Anduin is a nice and flavorful card as well. I do think it might end up too slow, though. Would it be possible to give him Taunt?
linkblade
Ooof, this is super hard to evaluate. The idea is certainly very strong, but I can understand grumymonk's reasoning that the card is too expensive. It reminds me of Luna's Pocket Galaxy that needed several attempts to find the right cost. I would advocate for making it cost 5.
Wailor
Very creative approach, super flavorful! I do like grumymonk's suggestion for the card text. Regarding the strength of the card, I'd compare it to Archbishop Benedictus. You're pretty much immune against fatigue which makes for great Control decks. I'd see this in Mill or Deathrattle builds, maybe Shuffle Rogue could also abuse it. Cool idea!
I've seen two decks this morning that I'd like to try out. The first one is BloodMefist's Memes and Dreams deck of the week, Menagerie Taunt Druid. The second one is a Deletelock for Wild which therottedzombie posted on twitter. Here are the lists:
When I copied them to my collection, I noticed that I was short of Plaguemaw the Rotting, 1 Dirty Rat and 1 Barrens Scavenger, so I sadly deleted the Druid deck and decided to buy 5 Barrens packs to fish for the Scavenger because I knew I had almost all epics already. Lo and behold, out pops not only the wanted Barrens Scavenger, but also Plaguemaw! Thanks Yogg!
Super nice idea, thanks a lot! When N'zoth came out I toyed around with a Menagerie Deathrattle Hunter, but this looks way more solid. Also the new format of the article looks great to me. :)
First idea, I hope it's not too close to grumpymonk's.
This is meant to support the Big Demon Hunter archetype that never really took off. Alandien is one of the three Demon Hunter teachers in charge of training new adepts in WoW. She was the first known female Demon Hunter in-game. [I had initially used Kor'vas Bloodthorn for this card, but Blizzard has made her a real card in the meantime.]
Sure! I'm planning to do the puzzles today so I haven't tried this yet, but as far as I know, it doesn't really matter if you only use the leftmost minion. The goal is to get all enemy minions to 4 attack. Celestalon said on twitter that he wanted them to have the same attack right from the start and 4 was the first value that somehow came together. It was also quite flavorful with the 4 parts of the achievement. So there's no big mistery here as far as I know. It just seems to be easier to only use the leftmost minion and getting all enemies to 4 seems to be a maths puzzle if you don't just follow instructions from people who have already solved it. I hope that helps :)
Update: this would be quite a challenge, but your effect might be very flavorful in Rogue. You could make it look like sneaking in a saboteur behind enemy lines who wreaks havoc if he isn't discovered soon enough. Problem is, Rogue is not meant to get AOE. :/
Maybe make it weaker, like 1 or 2 damage? If you find art for this, you might end up with a super flavorful 5 stars contender!
So you're "pretty active in HS and the HS community" but you don't read patch notes of major updates and the articles on the front page of the dedicated homepage your visiting and you don't follow the social media channels of the devs. I don't see much ground for complaining about not being informed about this to be honest, but maybe that's just me.
Hmmm. Quite hard to tell actually. I'll just walk you through my thought process.
First of all, the texts are different. I don't think it's a problem, but have you used the word "next" in the Mage card when you have left it out in the Priest one on purpose? If so, why? I personally prefer the Mage version but I guess both will work out. I'm just curious if there is something to learn here. Maybe Open the Waygate shenanigans?
Both art pieces are really great, the Mage one is a little better. Same goes for the names.
Both effects kinda make sense in the classes you've put them in.
Balance looks okay in the Priest card (that was pretty much my suggestion after all), the Mage card looks very strong at 2. You might get away with this because Flamestrike got buffed and the effect triggers only a turn later and under a condition.
So what decides this thing might be the flavor. I must admit that my brain beats my heart in this case because I see your Mage card as a sibling of Wildfire, one of my favorite cards in the game: both are at 2 Mana, epic and have gorgeous art works. Here comes the but: that art doesn't fit your effect very well. It looks like a fire spell that blows up an enemy, which is fine for the effect when it triggers, but it doesn't explain the delay. In your Priest card, there's no such explanation either, but that's okay, because it's a mind manipulation kind of thing and no explanation is better than a false one in this case if you get what I mean. So my heart is all in for the Mage card, but logic dictates to go with the Priest one. Good luck!
I'm here, I just don't have a good idea. Thanks for keeping this alive. You don't have to worry though, this thread has always come back so far, even after weeks of silence. Sometimes people just need a break.
Literally piggybacking might be something like Crabrider.
Alright, I'll try one last time. The achievement was added with the big patch this week. You could have noticed it in game and made your inquiries online. Celestalon also started to tweet about this like a week ago with cryptic stuff. When the patch was live, he flat out announced that there was a secret achievement. Last but not least, there was dedicated article on the front site of this. Very. Website. I do think those were enough opportunities to take notice of the thing.
Regarding your first edit: like I have already explained, the hints are in the flavor texts of the 4 mercenaries and they are easier to solve if you look them up in different languages. As far as I know, the Druid one was pretty straight forward in Chinese. And yes, putting the two Eclipse cards into a deck is part of the solution.
No idea what you are talking about concerning the sound. I haven't seen a part of the riddle that involves sound. The flavor texts are quotes, but you look them up on the card pages.
Finally I'd like to stress once more that this was meant as some kind of global sized scavenger's hunt. No single person was meant to solve this on their own. It was about working together. Like once people figured out that the Druid riddle was a maze, it was only a matter of generating the map. Everybody could have contributed to that.
I wholeheartedly disagree. I was watching the WoW Secret Finding Discord channel when they solved the first two riddles and it was amazing. People from all over the world working together to get this done, it was so chaotic and so so beautiful. Granted, the difficulty of this thing is beyond crazy but that probably was the whole point of it: it was never meant to be solvable by any one person.
Some explanations for more clarity:
Step 1 was finding out that the flavor texts of the Druid, Warrior, Rogue and Hunter mercenary contain clues for the 4 parts of the achievement. I wasn't around at the time but I guess what makes them stand out is that the characters quote themselves in their flavor texts.
Step 2: They hint at cards you have to play against the innkeeper. To find out which cards exactly are needed, people from different countries helped together because the hints were more straight forward in some languages.
Step 3: Solving the riddles themselves. Some people tried to apply really advanced math to the Rogue one but got beaten by trial and error people because no one knew what to look for. For Druid it was a matter of patience once someone had the brilliant idea that it was a maze. I mean: Hiding a fucking maze in a HS board state. This must be the most genius thing in the history of Easter Eggs. Warrior was the old classic of bringing the sheep and the wolf over the river. I'm in love and no, I haven't participated in any of it. Just watching it unfold piece by piece was amazing.
I can recommend using the WoW Secrets Discord channel. They provide a shared sheet with all the known info so far. All 4 puzzles have been found, so far only Warrior has been solved.
Yeah, that would be better. Imagine the memes if you combo this with Magicfin!
Demon
I'm sorry about the cost problem with The End Foretold, but I keep up my opinion that it would be too dangerous at 3 because of the combo potential with the Spellstone. The new card looks very interesting. It reminds me a bit of Shadowflame but I think it might fit Priest pretty well. Anduin is going with sticky minions these days and strange board clears has always been a thing for the class. I wouldn't make it too expensive. Maybe 3 Mana? Thanks for your encouragement regarding my card :)
BasilAnguis
I agree with Demon and ChickyChick. It is a nice idea and the art is great. Maybe you can tewak it so it gets more playable.
As Demon and Sinti suggested, I have given my Meditation card the Forbidden treatment and swapped the art for something darker accordingly. Sad to see that someone else picked up the Meditation theme in the meantime :(
Looks like a slow start into the week... I'm sorry if I suggested a difficult theme again. I thought designing OP cards would be fun :(
Feedback:
I've seen two decks this morning that I'd like to try out. The first one is BloodMefist's Memes and Dreams deck of the week, Menagerie Taunt Druid. The second one is a Deletelock for Wild which therottedzombie posted on twitter. Here are the lists:
When I copied them to my collection, I noticed that I was short of Plaguemaw the Rotting, 1 Dirty Rat and 1 Barrens Scavenger, so I sadly deleted the Druid deck and decided to buy 5 Barrens packs to fish for the Scavenger because I knew I had almost all epics already. Lo and behold, out pops not only the wanted Barrens Scavenger, but also Plaguemaw! Thanks Yogg!
Super nice idea, thanks a lot! When N'zoth came out I toyed around with a Menagerie Deathrattle Hunter, but this looks way more solid. Also the new format of the article looks great to me. :)
First idea, I hope it's not too close to grumpymonk's.
This is meant to support the Big Demon Hunter archetype that never really took off. Alandien is one of the three Demon Hunter teachers in charge of training new adepts in WoW. She was the first known female Demon Hunter in-game. [I had initially used Kor'vas Bloodthorn for this card, but Blizzard has made her a real card in the meantime.]
Congrats, MathU!
Mill Rogue is absolutely disgusting to play against. 5 turns stealthing their hero is just too much for me.
Good luck to the finalists!
Kathrena Winterwisp?
[it's still DestroyerR's turn, isn't it?]
Sure! I'm planning to do the puzzles today so I haven't tried this yet, but as far as I know, it doesn't really matter if you only use the leftmost minion. The goal is to get all enemy minions to 4 attack. Celestalon said on twitter that he wanted them to have the same attack right from the start and 4 was the first value that somehow came together. It was also quite flavorful with the 4 parts of the achievement. So there's no big mistery here as far as I know. It just seems to be easier to only use the leftmost minion and getting all enemies to 4 seems to be a maths puzzle if you don't just follow instructions from people who have already solved it. I hope that helps :)
Some behind the scenes info from Celestalon for those that don't follow the devs on social media ;-) link
He also did a Q&A about it, but there wasn't much new info as far as I could see.
Update: this would be quite a challenge, but your effect might be very flavorful in Rogue. You could make it look like sneaking in a saboteur behind enemy lines who wreaks havoc if he isn't discovered soon enough. Problem is, Rogue is not meant to get AOE. :/
Maybe make it weaker, like 1 or 2 damage? If you find art for this, you might end up with a super flavorful 5 stars contender!
So you're "pretty active in HS and the HS community" but you don't read patch notes of major updates and the articles on the front page of the dedicated homepage your visiting and you don't follow the social media channels of the devs. I don't see much ground for complaining about not being informed about this to be honest, but maybe that's just me.
Hmmm. Quite hard to tell actually. I'll just walk you through my thought process.
First of all, the texts are different. I don't think it's a problem, but have you used the word "next" in the Mage card when you have left it out in the Priest one on purpose? If so, why? I personally prefer the Mage version but I guess both will work out. I'm just curious if there is something to learn here. Maybe Open the Waygate shenanigans?
Both art pieces are really great, the Mage one is a little better. Same goes for the names.
Both effects kinda make sense in the classes you've put them in.
Balance looks okay in the Priest card (that was pretty much my suggestion after all), the Mage card looks very strong at 2. You might get away with this because Flamestrike got buffed and the effect triggers only a turn later and under a condition.
So what decides this thing might be the flavor. I must admit that my brain beats my heart in this case because I see your Mage card as a sibling of Wildfire, one of my favorite cards in the game: both are at 2 Mana, epic and have gorgeous art works. Here comes the but: that art doesn't fit your effect very well. It looks like a fire spell that blows up an enemy, which is fine for the effect when it triggers, but it doesn't explain the delay. In your Priest card, there's no such explanation either, but that's okay, because it's a mind manipulation kind of thing and no explanation is better than a false one in this case if you get what I mean. So my heart is all in for the Mage card, but logic dictates to go with the Priest one. Good luck!
I'm here, I just don't have a good idea. Thanks for keeping this alive. You don't have to worry though, this thread has always come back so far, even after weeks of silence. Sometimes people just need a break.
Literally piggybacking might be something like Crabrider.
Alright, I'll try one last time. The achievement was added with the big patch this week. You could have noticed it in game and made your inquiries online. Celestalon also started to tweet about this like a week ago with cryptic stuff. When the patch was live, he flat out announced that there was a secret achievement. Last but not least, there was dedicated article on the front site of this. Very. Website. I do think those were enough opportunities to take notice of the thing.
Regarding your first edit: like I have already explained, the hints are in the flavor texts of the 4 mercenaries and they are easier to solve if you look them up in different languages. As far as I know, the Druid one was pretty straight forward in Chinese. And yes, putting the two Eclipse cards into a deck is part of the solution.
No idea what you are talking about concerning the sound. I haven't seen a part of the riddle that involves sound. The flavor texts are quotes, but you look them up on the card pages.
Finally I'd like to stress once more that this was meant as some kind of global sized scavenger's hunt. No single person was meant to solve this on their own. It was about working together. Like once people figured out that the Druid riddle was a maze, it was only a matter of generating the map. Everybody could have contributed to that.
I wholeheartedly disagree. I was watching the WoW Secret Finding Discord channel when they solved the first two riddles and it was amazing. People from all over the world working together to get this done, it was so chaotic and so so beautiful. Granted, the difficulty of this thing is beyond crazy but that probably was the whole point of it: it was never meant to be solvable by any one person.
Some explanations for more clarity:
Step 1 was finding out that the flavor texts of the Druid, Warrior, Rogue and Hunter mercenary contain clues for the 4 parts of the achievement. I wasn't around at the time but I guess what makes them stand out is that the characters quote themselves in their flavor texts.
Step 2: They hint at cards you have to play against the innkeeper. To find out which cards exactly are needed, people from different countries helped together because the hints were more straight forward in some languages.
Step 3: Solving the riddles themselves. Some people tried to apply really advanced math to the Rogue one but got beaten by trial and error people because no one knew what to look for. For Druid it was a matter of patience once someone had the brilliant idea that it was a maze. I mean: Hiding a fucking maze in a HS board state. This must be the most genius thing in the history of Easter Eggs. Warrior was the old classic of bringing the sheep and the wolf over the river. I'm in love and no, I haven't participated in any of it. Just watching it unfold piece by piece was amazing.
Update: Rogue is solved, we're halfway there!
People are speculating Druid is a maze and Hunter has something to do with buying and selling items. They are trying to max their profit right now.
I can recommend using the WoW Secrets Discord channel. They provide a shared sheet with all the known info so far. All 4 puzzles have been found, so far only Warrior has been solved.
Edit: the links are in Celestalon's tweet
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As Demon and Sinti suggested, I have given my Meditation card the Forbidden treatment and swapped the art for something darker accordingly. Sad to see that someone else picked up the Meditation theme in the meantime :(
Sorry, I've corrected that.