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Ivern isn't ionian, he is from ixtal I think like zyra, nidalee, rengar, qiyana.

I hope they won't make them ionian cause they are not really japan oriented or vastayan. 

I wonder if they are gonna retcon nocturne into shadow isles or what they are gonna do when the go around updating him in league, he was on …

I will just state something not related to the card effect, Nocturne is NOT a shadow isles champion, it has no ties to the region, Nocturne, Evelynn,Fiddlesticks,tham kench are all demons they are essentially regionless

But Nocturne really fits shadow isles in the theme and mechanics (fearsome) and I doubt they would put him in demacia or something cause …

You meant fearsome

I think this is the best from the bunch revealed today, draining 2 with a 2 mana body and potential nightfall synergies (nocturne is gonna have either a similar effect to the horse revealed or have nightfall itself. 

So it is 4 Taragon champions then? Thought it would be 2 regions per 2 months.

I am glad we are seeing nocturne earlier but Taragon is gonna come out weaker. 

The buff is sizable, has no condition and can be played on turn 3 but it means you get no good blockers for the rest of the game, will be experimented with, probably not that great. 

If you have a champ slot free in a freljord deck..yeah play trundle, why not? he seems strong stat line and works without even having support.

The support seems bad, but so was the toss mechanic maybe a taragon champion will make this make more sense. maybe [runecard]aurelion sol[/runecard].

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I really, really hope this is not leading up to a Trundle reveal. We already have 1 non-Targon champ out of 7 total for this expansion.

I will be very, very sad if we only get 5 champs from Targon.

As for these cards ... they are probably …

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This card is weird, it's like a frostbite but not as good, but then it's like potion of iron but gives you a way to defend 2 targets maybe?

it's +1 mana on potion of iron to get a better trade.. is it worth? maybe..

 

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Only really works with yetis since you know they are there.

but it's not enough in my opinion needs more support to be ok.

This card is weird, it's like a frostbite but not as good, but then it's like potion of itron but gives you a way to defend 2 targets maybe?

it's +1 mana on potion of iron to get a better trade.. is it worth? maybe..

Unless trundle cheats out cards or something this card comes really late.. I mean nautilus comes at 7 mana and it's too slow..

Not good enough to see play even if it didn't had a condition it was only ok.

We have a 5 mana 4/5 that also has regen.

Not that great, we saw a 2 mana 4/3 (only when drawn) but it's just not that great.. and this is easier to trigger but you run high cost cards in your aggressive deck?

This seems horrible.. 2 hp, with conditions and doesn't even actually ramps you.

just gives you [card]the coin[/card] basically.

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is'nt too impressive tbh, it's intended as a buff/support target but there are better ones

At 2 mana? What did you have in mind?

I can think of some that are about as good, but the best 2-mana support targets have weak bodies that are less …

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Overwhelm is not "just stats." Overwhelm ends games.

Gems make it extremely easy to reduce the cost, so no, it will not be too late in the game. You don't go by what "most decks" do; you go by what you can do with the deck built specifically for this.

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She looks crazy, which she kind of is.. I mean did you ever listened to her voice lines? it's all nonsense.

Think it captures her craziness fine enough..

If you play her in a synergistic deck she will probably be level up by turn 5-4 so that's something.

I agree her leveled up art looks better but …

I disagree about a 4 mana 3/3 being a decent body.. 4 mana 3/3 is really bad statline only if they give you some kind of card advantage they see play.. and at 4 mana it's hard to combo with the card you want to grant elusive to..

Swim evaluated the card more or less like I did he …

I really like this change that "reroll" or "create an infinite chain" was really annoying to deal with..

Well you can think of the option of the card being itself as a rearoll but now you won't get a "Bad" option of itself, so overall it's probably ok in the end..

still I would like them to make …