Yeah, Blizzard has nothing when it comes to community support. That was one of my favourite things as a many-years League of Legends player and someone who also dabbled in the content side of League. They were so active it was tough to keep up with at times!
We'll do our best to highlight the important stuff they're talking about online, though it may take some time to get everyone properly tracked :D
I'll add, our goal is to grow the site to be as large as possible so we can have a vibrant community. Supporting multiple games helps us achieve that and more importantly, there is definitely room for splash over. If we gain a lot of extra traffic because of Runeterra, the Hearthstone side of things will grow as well
The game is currently in a 5-day "Patch Preview". It will then go offline for a month and return with another short preview period before going down again until the start of 2020.
Hearthstone very rarely has actual news and its been that way for a very frustrating 6 years. If it wasn't for the Blitzchung drama recently, it would have been a couple of weeks of silence and us just continuing to push out interesting articles on different types of decks people can play to enjoy the game.
I'm also not sure what you're talking about as far as missing content goes. There were a couple of mediocre things missed a few weeks back due to a lot of stuff going on and me being out sick for a whole week, which is a speck of dust when you compare it to us actually covering everything else.
The end goal for this site was to never only cover one game though, and I thought we were quite clear when we gave it a generic name, moving away from Hearthstation, and talking about it multiple times in the news and on the forums. There are plans to allow people to only see stuff for one game if that is all they care about, Riot just caught us offguard with the game announcement and we've had to react quickly to it.
Anyone relying on creating a top-tier website that is only going to talk about Hearthstone, I don't trust Blizzard enough to put anyone's livelihood on that, as further proven by the recent Blitzchung controversy. I love Blizzard, always will, and I think they've done a very good job for Hearthstone this whole year with so many extra content updates and communication, but that doesn't fix the overall track record for the game and the game continues to decline in players which makes it even scarier to invest in it long-term.
That's not to say we're not still playing and loving the game and that we're going to stop creating content for it, because that is still our primary drive, Runeterra is just new and there's a LOT to talk about. We've probably got another 2 weeks of silence from Hearthstone and then things will really pick-up when BlizzCon hits. A new expansion announcement and then a card reveal period shortly after with the release in December makes for a super interesting month+.
I will say though, the community here is infinitely better than what HearthPwn currently has, even if we have slightly less activity. I've seen real discussions take place here where you really can't say the same about HearthPwn. Not entirely sure what you mean by decks either, we have a much higher % of quality deck guides being written on the site compared to the amount of duplicate, empty stuff HP has. You're more than welcome to your own opinion on that though and I wish you the best in your internet travels! Feel free to come back anytime and engage with us in discussion on Hearthstone.
I actually had sent you a PM before seeing that you made a thread on the forums about the problem.
The issue is that the site thought you were spamming! By reposting the same thread over and over afterward, it made the spam filter even more negative towards the content. It's okay though, we're able to recover stuff that is incorrectly flagged by the system.
In the future, you or anyone else that encounters an error, please let staff know and we can rescue it or at least tell you what's going on before trying to create more threads. Right now everyone is forced to have their posts go through the spam filter so we can help train it better, but as we build up internal reputation scores for everyone, and the spam filter gets better overall, the chance of active, legitimate users having their content caught in it greatly diminishes.
My problem with this game is that there are only so many champions in League, and only so many regions. Unlike Hearthstone which is based on WoW, a massive expanse with vast territories to explore and delve into, LoR is limited to the base game itself. They can only add so many champions to LoR, before they have to start making new ones completely from scratch, which at that point would split it from it's roots in League (which may be a good or bad thing). I feel like LoR will be a strong competitor for Hearthstone (highly doubt it would be the new CCG king, given all the previous supposed Hearthstone "killers"), but unless they come up with a way to compete with Hearthstone's expansion system, the game will become stagnangt.
I actually think that this is the perfect opportunity for Riot to introduce new champions into the official lore without needing them to be represented in League of Legends. It is not really much of a secret that Riot has been working on an MMO, which needs a ton of rich lore, so by using that story and those characters in the card game, they can teach people more about the world and then when it comes time to explore that world like one does with the Warcraft universe and World of Warcraft, it will be that much more familiar to players and honestly, great for building bonds.
It would also make their introduction into League of Legends in the future that much more exciting. Riot has some really special stuff in their hands and I'm really excited to see how they build out this world.
If I made a section, would y'all populate it with some initial information to help others out with the game? sto65 has done a great job so far with the Eternal forum over the past day, as a good example.
Yeah, it blows my mind about how good and appealing Hearthstone's card frames are.
I don't hate the Runeterra ones, I've certainly seen worse, but I have not found a single digital card game that has good looking card frames when compared to the likes of Hearthstone or physical games like Magic and Pokemon.
The Runeterra ones fit the LoL universe though which is maybe why I don't hate them. Playing LoL for as many years as I did, one gets accustomed to certain designs.
I think a lot of why the Hearthstone frames are so good is because they are kinda flat, not super flashy and metallic (though they do have some metal bits ofc). You can actually believe they could be paper cards. The readability of their card text is also very good, I do find the Runeterra ones to be a bit on the small side.
Can I just ask how you guys already have a complete database of a game thats only been public knowledge for around 8 hours? Thanks for the coverage and congrats on your insane work ethic.
Riot made data available in zip files. If they hadn't though, we'd just have datamined the game - a handful of us have access :
Thanks for the information! A customized homepage with game filtering is really good. I'd like to suggest that really big announcements are displayed on the homepage, even if they belong to games not selected by the user, for example announcing a new game.
Keep up the good job!
Agreed, some stuff definitely should still be visible to everyone. We'll be sure to have a way to flag articles so they always get included :
I've added a forum for Eternal. The game has been around long enough and so I'm willing to give it a shot. If the forum doesn't attract much traffic though, we may have to just have a thread in the general gaming section :P
Also, for anyone out there that wants to request a forum for another card game - I'll definitely consider the request, but I have to have a good enough feeling that it'll be used. If it isn't used, it just takes up extra space and it may be better served by a single mega-thread for the game. Starting a mega-thread for a game and seeing how it does on the site is a good way to showcase we should put up a forum for it.
I wanted to just keep everyone in the loop where we're at when it comes to support multiple card games on the site.
As you've probably seen, we've begun to cover Legends of Runeterra, a card game from Riot Games which uses the lore of League of Legends. Right now, it is not possible to avoid seeing these articles on the homepage. I know this may be an inconvenience for some of you that only play Hearthstone, but do know that this is temporary. I am working on a solution that will allow logged-in users to customize their homepage preferences and logged-out users to at least be able to hide articles from other games.
Legends of Runeterra appeared out of nowhere so we were a bit unprepared for this. We're still looking to add Magic Arena support to the site by the end of year, so don't worry magic fans, we're with you on that!
The Navigation will be receiving a large update that will allow for game selection. We'll likely let logged-in users select their default navigation. The homepage will also be receiving a change at some point that will become generalized to all the titles we support and not just Hearthstone specific. At this time, we'll add in dedicated landing pages for all the games we support that will showcase things like decks, events, and discussions. We'll also give logged-in users the ability to convert the site homepage to one that supports only one game if they would like to.
I know some may not be a fan of us supporting multiple games, but it has been a goal of ours since the beginning. Especially when you see how Hearthstone can do so many things wrong, should the game every die we'd hate to lose the community we've created. Only good things can come from having multiple games supported on the site!
We'll likely be looking for some new volunteers to help with Legends of Runeterra, so if you're interested in that stay tuned for more information and be sure to stay active on the forums and discord! Anyone who is active on the site, showing their knowledge and helping out others is more likely to join our awesome team. We're also eventually going to look for people who want to help cover Magic Arena before we start on that, so stay tuned there as well.
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Yeah, Blizzard has nothing when it comes to community support. That was one of my favourite things as a many-years League of Legends player and someone who also dabbled in the content side of League. They were so active it was tough to keep up with at times!
We'll do our best to highlight the important stuff they're talking about online, though it may take some time to get everyone properly tracked :D
I don't say this often, but, you're a fool.
You received a response from Frosty on your question about LoR.
I'll add, our goal is to grow the site to be as large as possible so we can have a vibrant community. Supporting multiple games helps us achieve that and more importantly, there is definitely room for splash over. If we gain a lot of extra traffic because of Runeterra, the Hearthstone side of things will grow as well
The game is currently in a 5-day "Patch Preview". It will then go offline for a month and return with another short preview period before going down again until the start of 2020.
Hearthstone very rarely has actual news and its been that way for a very frustrating 6 years. If it wasn't for the Blitzchung drama recently, it would have been a couple of weeks of silence and us just continuing to push out interesting articles on different types of decks people can play to enjoy the game.
I'm also not sure what you're talking about as far as missing content goes. There were a couple of mediocre things missed a few weeks back due to a lot of stuff going on and me being out sick for a whole week, which is a speck of dust when you compare it to us actually covering everything else.
The end goal for this site was to never only cover one game though, and I thought we were quite clear when we gave it a generic name, moving away from Hearthstation, and talking about it multiple times in the news and on the forums. There are plans to allow people to only see stuff for one game if that is all they care about, Riot just caught us offguard with the game announcement and we've had to react quickly to it.
Anyone relying on creating a top-tier website that is only going to talk about Hearthstone, I don't trust Blizzard enough to put anyone's livelihood on that, as further proven by the recent Blitzchung controversy. I love Blizzard, always will, and I think they've done a very good job for Hearthstone this whole year with so many extra content updates and communication, but that doesn't fix the overall track record for the game and the game continues to decline in players which makes it even scarier to invest in it long-term.
That's not to say we're not still playing and loving the game and that we're going to stop creating content for it, because that is still our primary drive, Runeterra is just new and there's a LOT to talk about. We've probably got another 2 weeks of silence from Hearthstone and then things will really pick-up when BlizzCon hits. A new expansion announcement and then a card reveal period shortly after with the release in December makes for a super interesting month+.
I will say though, the community here is infinitely better than what HearthPwn currently has, even if we have slightly less activity. I've seen real discussions take place here where you really can't say the same about HearthPwn. Not entirely sure what you mean by decks either, we have a much higher % of quality deck guides being written on the site compared to the amount of duplicate, empty stuff HP has. You're more than welcome to your own opinion on that though and I wish you the best in your internet travels! Feel free to come back anytime and engage with us in discussion on Hearthstone.
Please give this a read!
https://outof.cards/forums/out-of-cards/site-updates/1795-a-note-on-supporting-multiple-games-on-out-of-cards
Why do you think that? Constructive comments are incredibly more useful to the community!
Hey, Nirast.
I actually had sent you a PM before seeing that you made a thread on the forums about the problem.
The issue is that the site thought you were spamming! By reposting the same thread over and over afterward, it made the spam filter even more negative towards the content. It's okay though, we're able to recover stuff that is incorrectly flagged by the system.
In the future, you or anyone else that encounters an error, please let staff know and we can rescue it or at least tell you what's going on before trying to create more threads. Right now everyone is forced to have their posts go through the spam filter so we can help train it better, but as we build up internal reputation scores for everyone, and the spam filter gets better overall, the chance of active, legitimate users having their content caught in it greatly diminishes.
Sorry for the trouble!
I actually think that this is the perfect opportunity for Riot to introduce new champions into the official lore without needing them to be represented in League of Legends. It is not really much of a secret that Riot has been working on an MMO, which needs a ton of rich lore, so by using that story and those characters in the card game, they can teach people more about the world and then when it comes time to explore that world like one does with the Warcraft universe and World of Warcraft, it will be that much more familiar to players and honestly, great for building bonds.
It would also make their introduction into League of Legends in the future that much more exciting. Riot has some really special stuff in their hands and I'm really excited to see how they build out this world.
Moved to the correct forum.
If I made a section, would y'all populate it with some initial information to help others out with the game? sto65 has done a great job so far with the Eternal forum over the past day, as a good example.
https://outof.cards/forums/eternal/eternal-general
I wouldn't even be opposed to getting some sectional forum mods going if we wanted to really get those sections talkative =)
Edit: I made a forum for it. I trust we'll put it to good use :D
https://outof.cards/forums/mythgard/mythgard-general
Yeah, it blows my mind about how good and appealing Hearthstone's card frames are.
I don't hate the Runeterra ones, I've certainly seen worse, but I have not found a single digital card game that has good looking card frames when compared to the likes of Hearthstone or physical games like Magic and Pokemon.
The Runeterra ones fit the LoL universe though which is maybe why I don't hate them. Playing LoL for as many years as I did, one gets accustomed to certain designs.
I think a lot of why the Hearthstone frames are so good is because they are kinda flat, not super flashy and metallic (though they do have some metal bits ofc). You can actually believe they could be paper cards. The readability of their card text is also very good, I do find the Runeterra ones to be a bit on the small side.
Riot made data available in zip files. If they hadn't though, we'd just have datamined the game - a handful of us have access :
Great addition! It really makes for easy clearing of the quest log and those beautiful rewards.
Agreed, some stuff definitely should still be visible to everyone. We'll be sure to have a way to flag articles so they always get included :
Barrier
Negates the next damage the unit would take. Lasts one round.
Burst
Burst spells resolve instantly. The enemy can't act before it finishes.
Can't Block
Cannot block.
Capture
A Captured card is removed from the game. It returns when the Capturing unit leaves play.
Challenger
Can choose which enemy unit blocks.
Double Attack
While attacking, it strikes both before AND at the same time as its blocker.
Drain
Heal our Nexus for the amount of damage dealt.
Elusive
Can only be blocked by an Elusive unit.
Enlightened
You're Enlightened when you have 10 max mana.
Ephemeral
This unit dies when it strikes or when the round ends.
Fast
Fast spells can be played at any time, but allow the opponent to respond.
Fearsome
Can only be blocked by enemies with 3 or more Attack.
Fleeting
Fleeting cards discard from hand when the round ends.
Frostbite
Set a unit's Power to 0 this round (it can be changed after).
Imbue
These abilities trigger when you resolve a spell.
Last Breath
These abilities take effect when the unit dies.
Lifesteal
Damage this unit deals heals its Nexus that amount.
Obliterate
Completely removed from the game. Doesn't cause Last Breath and can't be revived.
Overwhelm
Excess damage I deal to my blocker is dealt to the enemy Nexus.
Overwhelm
Inflicts damage beyond what would kill the target(s) to the enemy Nexus.
Quick Attack
While attacking, strikes before its blocker.
Recall
Return a unit to hand and remove all effects applied to it.
Regeneration
Heals fully at the start of each round.
Skill
A spell-like effect created and cast by unit.
Slow
Slow spells can be cast outside of combat and other casting. The enemy can respond.
Stun
Remove a unit from combat. It can't attack or block for the rest of the round.
Tough
Takes 1 less damage from all sources.
Trap
Attaches to another card, trapping it. When the trapped card is drawn, perform the effect.
Weakest
Lowest Power, with ties broken by lowest Health then lowest Cost
I've added a forum for Eternal. The game has been around long enough and so I'm willing to give it a shot. If the forum doesn't attract much traffic though, we may have to just have a thread in the general gaming section :P
I expect you'll get some threads started? :D
https://outof.cards/forums/eternal/eternal-general
Also, for anyone out there that wants to request a forum for another card game - I'll definitely consider the request, but I have to have a good enough feeling that it'll be used. If it isn't used, it just takes up extra space and it may be better served by a single mega-thread for the game. Starting a mega-thread for a game and seeing how it does on the site is a good way to showcase we should put up a forum for it.
Hey all!
I wanted to just keep everyone in the loop where we're at when it comes to support multiple card games on the site.
As you've probably seen, we've begun to cover Legends of Runeterra, a card game from Riot Games which uses the lore of League of Legends. Right now, it is not possible to avoid seeing these articles on the homepage. I know this may be an inconvenience for some of you that only play Hearthstone, but do know that this is temporary. I am working on a solution that will allow logged-in users to customize their homepage preferences and logged-out users to at least be able to hide articles from other games.
Legends of Runeterra appeared out of nowhere so we were a bit unprepared for this. We're still looking to add Magic Arena support to the site by the end of year, so don't worry magic fans, we're with you on that!
The Navigation will be receiving a large update that will allow for game selection. We'll likely let logged-in users select their default navigation. The homepage will also be receiving a change at some point that will become generalized to all the titles we support and not just Hearthstone specific. At this time, we'll add in dedicated landing pages for all the games we support that will showcase things like decks, events, and discussions. We'll also give logged-in users the ability to convert the site homepage to one that supports only one game if they would like to.
I know some may not be a fan of us supporting multiple games, but it has been a goal of ours since the beginning. Especially when you see how Hearthstone can do so many things wrong, should the game every die we'd hate to lose the community we've created. Only good things can come from having multiple games supported on the site!
We'll likely be looking for some new volunteers to help with Legends of Runeterra, so if you're interested in that stay tuned for more information and be sure to stay active on the forums and discord! Anyone who is active on the site, showing their knowledge and helping out others is more likely to join our awesome team. We're also eventually going to look for people who want to help cover Magic Arena before we start on that, so stay tuned there as well.