Can someone enlighten me as to why they'd be nerfing Order in the Court? Is there something broken it's doing in Standard?
The most powerful thing I've seen it do is get a Lightray into hand and on the board super early. If a Paladin manages to play 7 or 8 class cards in the first few turns (easy to do with all the 1-drops, plus Sinful Sous Chef), then Order in the Court gets them 2 free Lightrays. If you can't deal with that board, and Crusader Aura comes in, you're toast.
You're not wrong! I've been playing tempo naga DH a bit with a very high winrate. This card allows you to pull through your whole deck while dealing repetitive damage. It's like they learned nothing from Spitelash Siren.
Played 3 games, won 2 of them. Gunslinger Kurtrus solo'd a Death Knight after I played him twice using Zola the Gorgon, killing a win condition, but my opponent conceded too fast for me to see what it was. Also defeated a Mage just with board presence, a lucky Xhilag off Azshara, and an Astalor. Lost to a Druid who curved perfectly into buffed dragons on turns 4 and 5.
My starting question: what is Gold Rush asking us to do? It says "Strike gold with Gold Panner" so I tried it in a deck with plenty of golden cards, but either this one is bugged or it does not mean "use Gold Panner to draw a golden card".
Have you gotten this one to work?
I got this achievement, but I'm not sure how. I think I got it the second time he drew me a card, so maybe you have to draw 2 cards? Or it might depend on the type of card. The suggestion of drawing a golden card makes sense, but I don't usually use golden cards, so it probably wasn't that.
Damn this looks so fun! I've been on the fence about crafting Gunslinger Kurtrus, but now I think I will. I think Loknax made a great point about card generation, and I also want to add a Steamcleaner to counter DK plagues. I'll do some work shopping and let you know how it goes.
Leaving the snake on the board also opens up the possibility that your opponent will steal it, via Sylvanas or similar.
This is definitely relevant! I actually just played SnakeLock this afternoon against a Rogue, and I specifically chose to wait a few turns to play the combo because all I had to bounce it was Zola the Gorgon and I was waiting for a brewmaster. The Rogue might have been able to steal it, then bounce it with Shadowstep or Breakdance, and I couldn't take that chance.
Yes, that would tone it down quite a bit. Then there would be games against midrange or aggro decks where it simply isn't even enough damage/healing to matter, and others against control where it still wins you the game, it just takes longer.
That would be a neat fix too! The effect is still strong, but you'd realistically only get it once, then maybe a second time if you Excavate 4 more times and get a second snake. And in the very unlikely scenario that your opponent can't kill a 5/5, you're pretty much just winning at that point.
Is anyone else sick of getting killed by The Azerite Snake? This card is obtained so easily and quickly, then you just die to it over the next 2 turns. You should at least be able to heal back the health it steals. There is no real counterplay, as they always have way too many cards in hand for either Patchwerk or Theotar, the Mad Duke to be consistent.
Is Reno, Lone Ranger the highest rated card ever in the site's Compendiums? 92 is a crazy number!
Not surprising, though. I've fought so many Warlocks with the portal to summon infinite imps, and this is the only way to get rid of it. Plus, Rheastrasza looks really good too, and this would get rid of the Purified Dragon Nest.
Ok, my bad, no Showdown in the Badlands cards in current Catch-Up packs. Thanks for noticing my error!
I think my point is still correct regarding other expansions: if you have saved up Standard packs, opening them now will increase your percentage of cards from the previous five expansions, thereby decreasing your gain from Catch-Up packs.
If I understand Catch-Up packs correctly, you should open them BEFORE you open any other packs you have saved up.
Right now, I own 1 card (Thunderbringer) from Showdown in the Badlands. That should mean that my 2 free Catch-Up packs will contain 10 cards from Showdown in the Badlands, as well a smaller amount of cards from the earlier expansions that I already own more cards from.
Additionally, I have saved up a handful of Standard packs from weekly Tavern Brawls. I plan to open those AFTER I have opened my Catch-Up packs, so as to increase the total number of cards I get from earlier expansions.
If what I've said here is correct, consider this a PSA for everyone. If I'm wrong, I hope someone will correct me!
I'm going to be optimistic about this one. There will be times when you will wake this guy up frighteningly soon. And even when you don't, Warrior can last until it's awake. And then you can copy it.
I've been absolutely dominating with Blindeye Sharpshooter. The card is definitely due for a nerf. I'll miss it, though.
The most powerful thing I've seen it do is get a Lightray into hand and on the board super early. If a Paladin manages to play 7 or 8 class cards in the first few turns (easy to do with all the 1-drops, plus Sinful Sous Chef), then Order in the Court gets them 2 free Lightrays. If you can't deal with that board, and Crusader Aura comes in, you're toast.
You're not wrong! I've been playing tempo naga DH a bit with a very high winrate. This card allows you to pull through your whole deck while dealing repetitive damage. It's like they learned nothing from Spitelash Siren.
Here are my changes:
-1 Saloon Brewmaster
-1 Disciple of Argus
+1 Snake Eyes
+1 Mechagnome Guide
Played 3 games, won 2 of them. Gunslinger Kurtrus solo'd a Death Knight after I played him twice using Zola the Gorgon, killing a win condition, but my opponent conceded too fast for me to see what it was. Also defeated a Mage just with board presence, a lucky Xhilag off Azshara, and an Astalor. Lost to a Druid who curved perfectly into buffed dragons on turns 4 and 5.
Fun deck! Will definitely keep at it!
I got this achievement, but I'm not sure how. I think I got it the second time he drew me a card, so maybe you have to draw 2 cards? Or it might depend on the type of card. The suggestion of drawing a golden card makes sense, but I don't usually use golden cards, so it probably wasn't that.
Damn this looks so fun! I've been on the fence about crafting Gunslinger Kurtrus, but now I think I will. I think Loknax made a great point about card generation, and I also want to add a Steamcleaner to counter DK plagues. I'll do some work shopping and let you know how it goes.
This is definitely relevant! I actually just played SnakeLock this afternoon against a Rogue, and I specifically chose to wait a few turns to play the combo because all I had to bounce it was Zola the Gorgon and I was waiting for a brewmaster. The Rogue might have been able to steal it, then bounce it with Shadowstep or Breakdance, and I couldn't take that chance.
Yes, that would tone it down quite a bit. Then there would be games against midrange or aggro decks where it simply isn't even enough damage/healing to matter, and others against control where it still wins you the game, it just takes longer.
That would be a neat fix too! The effect is still strong, but you'd realistically only get it once, then maybe a second time if you Excavate 4 more times and get a second snake. And in the very unlikely scenario that your opponent can't kill a 5/5, you're pretty much just winning at that point.
That's a nice change, as bypassing armor and permanently reducing max health are both very problematic.
Is anyone else sick of getting killed by The Azerite Snake? This card is obtained so easily and quickly, then you just die to it over the next 2 turns. You should at least be able to heal back the health it steals. There is no real counterplay, as they always have way too many cards in hand for either Patchwerk or Theotar, the Mad Duke to be consistent.
I'd say so. Here's the original article about it, 4 weeks ago.
So, no free standard pack this week? Has Blizzard commented on this?
Not surprising, though. I've fought so many Warlocks with the portal to summon infinite imps, and this is the only way to get rid of it. Plus, Rheastrasza looks really good too, and this would get rid of the Purified Dragon Nest.
Ok, my bad, no Showdown in the Badlands cards in current Catch-Up packs. Thanks for noticing my error!
I think my point is still correct regarding other expansions: if you have saved up Standard packs, opening them now will increase your percentage of cards from the previous five expansions, thereby decreasing your gain from Catch-Up packs.
If I understand Catch-Up packs correctly, you should open them BEFORE you open any other packs you have saved up.
Right now, I own 1 card (Thunderbringer) from Showdown in the Badlands. That should mean that my 2 free Catch-Up packs will contain 10 cards from Showdown in the Badlands, as well a smaller amount of cards from the earlier expansions that I already own more cards from.
Additionally, I have saved up a handful of Standard packs from weekly Tavern Brawls. I plan to open those AFTER I have opened my Catch-Up packs, so as to increase the total number of cards I get from earlier expansions.
If what I've said here is correct, consider this a PSA for everyone. If I'm wrong, I hope someone will correct me!
How does this ignore taunts? The minions have rush, but cannot bypass an enemy minion with taunt
This is legendary?
Seems pretty mid to me. Easy enough to transform, but only a moderate payoff. I'd love to be wrong, though, as it's a really cool concept.
I'm going to be optimistic about this one. There will be times when you will wake this guy up frighteningly soon. And even when you don't, Warrior can last until it's awake. And then you can copy it.