I'm getting really frustrated....everyone has BETTER than constructed decks in this mode. I just lost to an on-curve upgraded Jinx....How the hell does anyone win games without a crazy amount of luck?
edit: How are you supposed to beat an upgraded (second) Ashe on turn 6?
I told you, Expeditions are better than constructed decks :) if they have upgraded ashe on T6, then they must have done nothing but freeze entire game, at which point you should have had some more pressure out, unless you had bad draws.
I think the best thing you can do is, if you have shards for it, to dedicate one week to trial runs. If you finish 3 Expeditions, another entry is free for the rest of the week. So you can do that with 1 token from lvl10 vault and then pay 6k for next two. Then you can just try out drafts and see how it works and what combination there can be and get a better understanding of it.
Is mushroom the new hotness? Should I be trying to draft Teemo? I just lost 4 in a row to mushroom decks. I don't know if it's simply my god awful picks, bad rng, if Teemo is legit good, or if I'm just extremely bad.
do you have any other links???
I have never lost to a Teemo deck yet. I came close few times, but what you cant do is to sit around and drag the game out, that way you are sure to lose. They need to throw away tempo by playing puffcaps, so try to capitalize on that and be more aggressive. I saw your screen in Salt Thread, yeah Round 11, that is taking it pretty long. I guess vs Freljord deck that just frostbites you over and over you might not have much choice, but like i said, you cant get it that far, if you can help it.
Im not saying Teemo decks cant work, you can actually make better ones in expeditions than in constructed, but they are usually too slow to kill you, unless you are very unlucky.
I was running a tempo oriented deck with 15 1, 2, and 3 drops. all my opponents had endless removal. I was running Elise and Vladimir, with triple Rekindler. They all had Teemo on curve or by turn 3, I drew Elise but once and Vlad but once....in the late game.
Thats another mindset you might have from HS Arena, minion combat. While it is still important, duh, if you dont have spells, you will not win many games. Because fast and burst spells are actually the ways you can react on the board when you need to. You can have the best board ever, but if your opponent recalls or frostbites your minions or buffs his to have a better trade, you are screwed.
I made this mistake myself when i started, now i watch carefully not only for my curve and synergy, but also how many spells i have, if im leaning way too heavilly into minions, i force myself to pick some spells, even tho the minions could have been better, but i know that having a hand full of great minions will do shit for me when i need to react to a situation. And with just 20 nexus health, games are much more explosive than in HS.
@Demon: Maybe it could read "Costs (1) if adjacent to a Dragon in your hand.
@Hordaki: I kinda like it, gives off Grimm Patron vibe, can be good for you if you have tokens, can be bad for you if you want to play a minion that you dont want to transform :)
@Fedrion: "...opponent's...", not sure i entirely like the card, but i dont hate it either.
@thepowerofcheese: very awkward wording, not a bad idea (insipred by Yetis in Runeterra?:D), but i think you should find a better way to word it.
@MurlocAggroB: im not sure about this card, could be interesting, but would never be more than a meme imho. Also "left-most".
@linkblade91: Definitely the 4-cost one, that one is pretty great. Maybe it should lose some stats tho, 5/3 would look better, even one trigger is pretty powerful.
@Nirast: too awkward imho. Maybe just do "Battlecry: Gain Deathrattles of adjacent minions." instead or something.
Big CG man! I bet that felt awesome! It is funny how when you make legend, you're first a pretty high rank cause most Legend players already doing goofy stuff so they deranked heavilly :D
Is mushroom the new hotness? Should I be trying to draft Teemo? I just lost 4 in a row to mushroom decks. I don't know if it's simply my god awful picks, bad rng, if Teemo is legit good, or if I'm just extremely bad.
do you have any other links???
I have never lost to a Teemo deck yet. I came close few times, but what you cant do is to sit around and drag the game out, that way you are sure to lose. They need to throw away tempo by playing puffcaps, so try to capitalize on that and be more aggressive. I saw your screen in Salt Thread, yeah Round 11, that is taking it pretty long. I guess vs Freljord deck that just frostbites you over and over you might not have much choice, but like i said, you cant get it that far, if you can help it.
Im not saying Teemo decks cant work, you can actually make better ones in expeditions than in constructed, but they are usually too slow to kill you, unless you are very unlucky.
CG to shaveyou again! Looking forward to new cards. I actually dont like this theme too much myself, cause ppl always try to make "opposite this minion" kind of cards and i absolutely hate those, but that is just one man's opinion, feel free to do whatever card you want, be creative and let the best card wins! GL
I must agree here. Your post is of a very low quality. You could have for example listed some of the mistakes you see players in lower elo do and offer some advice.
If you just wanted to share a deck ur playing or one that got you to Masters, that is perfectly fine, but you didnt go about it in a great way.
Small caveat: If you get a lot of losses in an Expedition, it's much closer to breaking even. I'm not sure if you can actually fall behind with maximum losses, but it can't be by much. (I don't remember if you get XP on an individual loss in Expeditions.)
I think you get 50xp per loss and it caps somewhere, cause i got 0 in the past. Definitely NOT worth trying to throw for the xp, even if you would get like 100xp every time without a cap lol!
its just because of the wording of the flavor text it shows an oversight of the cards design
it should be Battlecry: Your opponent draws a card. Add two copies of that card to your hand
nothing special but its just the little things
Dont take this in a wrong way, but if you want to correct somone, you should do your research first. It should have actually been "... Add two copies of it to your hand." I only found a single card in the game that says "that card" and that is Far Sight. Also, card text != flavor text :)
I already run Precious Pets, i switched them for Arachnoid Horrors, since i had too many 2-drops, but maybe i will add the 3rd one and will see what i do with the 2 slots. Maybe i'll add two Kalistas to see how they perform :d
Hosts are good, i often finish the game off their buff or at least do significant damage to follow up on that.
Pranksters r kinda crucial, since they are your only reach (except Overwhelm) when your opponent has a board. I have won many games on the backs of Pranksters.
Brood Awakenings i might agree with, like a week ago, they were still performing well, but lately, i just dont really find a way to play them in a good situation, since i almost always have 4 or more minions on the board and for the +1 buff, it is not worth to give your opponent an action in return. They are good as fodder for Pranksters or as a T3 play if you didnt have anything to play on first two turns, but im starting to feel like if that is the case, you might have other problems. From the three cards you mentined, this is the only one i think i might try and cut. Maybe i will try Rearguards instead, to accelerate early damage and to "guarantee" to have a T1 play.
That being said, i still win majority of my games, provided i play like 3-4 per day (just for the daily win bonus). I do play in Casual. I dont think it would be a very good deck to ladder with, but if you need some fast wins, it gets the job done.
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About Kalista, i dont feel like it would do much, at least in my version. 2-health is just abysmal, so she would basically act as any of the 1/1 tokens that was buffed. I have Darius there as a reach, 10 dmg on Overwhelm can usually finish the job.
How are Arachnoid Sentries working out for you? I love that card, but often times just stunning something doesnt achieve a whole lot, since your opponent just plays another thing with his action that can block you instead )and ur where ur started. That being said, both decks play pretty much in a similar fashion, so i guess it is just matter of preference.
No need to open separate thread to talk about the same thing twice, if you have anything to add to the discussion, please, continue in the original topic, thanks:
ok thanks, it is pretty rare right? i never seen a trade for champs but i will keep it in mind for now own.
Im not sure what are the conditions, maybe you can potentially force it, as with some other stuff during drafting, but yes. I think i had it offered to me 2 or 3 times only so far. I think at least 2 of those were at 6wins going to the last match.
It is possible, cause you can be offered to trade champion in a Trade pick after a few games, especially after 6th win. Once, i had 4 Garens in my deck, it was pretty awesome :D So many Garen's Judgments <3
I told you, Expeditions are better than constructed decks :) if they have upgraded ashe on T6, then they must have done nothing but freeze entire game, at which point you should have had some more pressure out, unless you had bad draws.
I think the best thing you can do is, if you have shards for it, to dedicate one week to trial runs. If you finish 3 Expeditions, another entry is free for the rest of the week. So you can do that with 1 token from lvl10 vault and then pay 6k for next two. Then you can just try out drafts and see how it works and what combination there can be and get a better understanding of it.
Thats another mindset you might have from HS Arena, minion combat. While it is still important, duh, if you dont have spells, you will not win many games. Because fast and burst spells are actually the ways you can react on the board when you need to. You can have the best board ever, but if your opponent recalls or frostbites your minions or buffs his to have a better trade, you are screwed.
I made this mistake myself when i started, now i watch carefully not only for my curve and synergy, but also how many spells i have, if im leaning way too heavilly into minions, i force myself to pick some spells, even tho the minions could have been better, but i know that having a hand full of great minions will do shit for me when i need to react to a situation. And with just 20 nexus health, games are much more explosive than in HS.
@Demon: Maybe it could read "Costs (1) if adjacent to a Dragon in your hand.
@Hordaki: I kinda like it, gives off Grimm Patron vibe, can be good for you if you have tokens, can be bad for you if you want to play a minion that you dont want to transform :)
@Fedrion: "...opponent's...", not sure i entirely like the card, but i dont hate it either.
@thepowerofcheese: very awkward wording, not a bad idea (insipred by Yetis in Runeterra?:D), but i think you should find a better way to word it.
@MurlocAggroB: im not sure about this card, could be interesting, but would never be more than a meme imho. Also "left-most".
@linkblade91: Definitely the 4-cost one, that one is pretty great. Maybe it should lose some stats tho, 5/3 would look better, even one trigger is pretty powerful.
@Nirast: too awkward imho. Maybe just do "Battlecry: Gain Deathrattles of adjacent minions." instead or something.
Big CG man! I bet that felt awesome! It is funny how when you make legend, you're first a pretty high rank cause most Legend players already doing goofy stuff so they deranked heavilly :D
I have never lost to a Teemo deck yet. I came close few times, but what you cant do is to sit around and drag the game out, that way you are sure to lose. They need to throw away tempo by playing puffcaps, so try to capitalize on that and be more aggressive. I saw your screen in Salt Thread, yeah Round 11, that is taking it pretty long. I guess vs Freljord deck that just frostbites you over and over you might not have much choice, but like i said, you cant get it that far, if you can help it.
Im not saying Teemo decks cant work, you can actually make better ones in expeditions than in constructed, but they are usually too slow to kill you, unless you are very unlucky.
CG to shaveyou again! Looking forward to new cards. I actually dont like this theme too much myself, cause ppl always try to make "opposite this minion" kind of cards and i absolutely hate those, but that is just one man's opinion, feel free to do whatever card you want, be creative and let the best card wins! GL
I must agree here. Your post is of a very low quality. You could have for example listed some of the mistakes you see players in lower elo do and offer some advice.
If you just wanted to share a deck ur playing or one that got you to Masters, that is perfectly fine, but you didnt go about it in a great way.
I think you get 50xp per loss and it caps somewhere, cause i got 0 in the past. Definitely NOT worth trying to throw for the xp, even if you would get like 100xp every time without a cap lol!
Dont take this in a wrong way, but if you want to correct somone, you should do your research first. It should have actually been "... Add two copies of it to your hand." I only found a single card in the game that says "that card" and that is Far Sight. Also, card text != flavor text :)
Anyway, CG to shaveyou!
Good job on 8 wins. Hunter has always been a very polarizing class, it either does really well or the opposite. Good luck in your next run :)
I already run Precious Pets, i switched them for Arachnoid Horrors, since i had too many 2-drops, but maybe i will add the 3rd one and will see what i do with the 2 slots. Maybe i'll add two Kalistas to see how they perform :d
Hosts are good, i often finish the game off their buff or at least do significant damage to follow up on that.
Pranksters r kinda crucial, since they are your only reach (except Overwhelm) when your opponent has a board. I have won many games on the backs of Pranksters.
Brood Awakenings i might agree with, like a week ago, they were still performing well, but lately, i just dont really find a way to play them in a good situation, since i almost always have 4 or more minions on the board and for the +1 buff, it is not worth to give your opponent an action in return. They are good as fodder for Pranksters or as a T3 play if you didnt have anything to play on first two turns, but im starting to feel like if that is the case, you might have other problems. From the three cards you mentined, this is the only one i think i might try and cut. Maybe i will try Rearguards instead, to accelerate early damage and to "guarantee" to have a T1 play.
That being said, i still win majority of my games, provided i play like 3-4 per day (just for the daily win bonus). I do play in Casual. I dont think it would be a very good deck to ladder with, but if you need some fast wins, it gets the job done.
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About Kalista, i dont feel like it would do much, at least in my version. 2-health is just abysmal, so she would basically act as any of the 1/1 tokens that was buffed. I have Darius there as a reach, 10 dmg on Overwhelm can usually finish the job.
How are Arachnoid Sentries working out for you? I love that card, but often times just stunning something doesnt achieve a whole lot, since your opponent just plays another thing with his action that can block you instead )and ur where ur started. That being said, both decks play pretty much in a similar fashion, so i guess it is just matter of preference.
Just cause it is rated last, does not mean you cant have a good run with it ;-)
No need to open separate thread to talk about the same thing twice, if you have anything to add to the discussion, please, continue in the original topic, thanks:
Let's talk about Hecarim
Ah, good catch! Totally forgot about that one.
I saw you already posted in the LoR Friend Request List, no need to start separate threads. Thanks.
Check the post i made in this thread about the card buckets during drafting ;-)
Im not sure what are the conditions, maybe you can potentially force it, as with some other stuff during drafting, but yes. I think i had it offered to me 2 or 3 times only so far. I think at least 2 of those were at 6wins going to the last match.
Interesting. Must be super competitive at the very top.
It is possible, cause you can be offered to trade champion in a Trade pick after a few games, especially after 6th win. Once, i had 4 Garens in my deck, it was pretty awesome :D So many Garen's Judgments <3