Update: Added the art and tokens. They don't fit together perfectly, but I probably won't have the time to look for better art this week. Do you think I should use them as they are or just submit the base card? Any flaws detected?
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I'd say the center of the first card should be his chest, not his staff. As it is right now, he doesn't seem to be the main focus of the card, which is a bit weird.
Sorry, anchor, I won't submit the Gru card XD Anyways, here are my ideas so far:
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Demonxz95
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Very neat card. I could see it winning.
linkblade91
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It's a pretty solid concept, but I think she compares too favorably to stuff like The Glass Knight or C'Thun's Chosen. Not like those cards are any good, but I'd still rise her cost to 5 mana.
BloodMefist
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That kinds of effects tend to be a little bit dangerous, especially if they're attatched to cheap minions. Maybe rise her cost and stats accordingly to 4, 5 or 6, dunno.
TheHoax91
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Defender of Dalaran is pretty cool, although it may be a bit OP. His watermark should be Rise of Shadows.
Raeth Ghostsong is a little too complex, probably. Once you understand what he does, it's cool, but it takes a couple seconds to do so.
fungusABao
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It's not a bad card, but it doesn't fit Classic, given it "limits design space". Any Year of the Phoenix expansions would fit flavor-wise, so I'd give it one of those, just to avoid Voidlord and similarly dangerous cards.
anchorm4n
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Really good flavor, indeed. The only thing I don't like is that it feels weird for a Rare card to summon an Epic one… Maybe if you make it a Class minion, it will feel more natural.
KANSAS
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The flavor isn't bad, but I don't like that the effect is too similar to Hench-Clan Hogsteed. Not sure if people won't mind this similarity too much.
Sorry guys and gals, I'm having a nice 60 hours week, fighting covid in a task force at my working place. On top of that, I hardly ever play Battlegrounds. If inspiration strikes tomorrow, I'll slip something in, but that won't be of any quality. I'll participate in the voting, though!
I think this prompt is too complicated. There should be more people posting ideas by this point :/ Anyways, I came up with a newer one which is hopefully less broken.
Prompt is pretty simple, i thought about making a submission, but i don't really care about battlegrounds.
It's simple, but hard to come up with interesting ideas for it.
I'm the one who suggested it, btw, so it was self-criticism, mostly 😂
I think this prompt is too complicated. There should be more people posting ideas by this point :/ Anyways, I came up with a newer one which is hopefully less broken.
I'll probably scrap both cards, since Radiant First Mate is broken with Goldgrubber (and Amalgadon, but that card is broken in general and already has Annoy-o-Module, so whatevs) and Shirvallah's Champion is probably a bad idea all around.
Meanwhile, here's some more feedback:
CursedParrot
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Unfortunately, that card doesn't work in Constructed, since the concept of "rounds" doesn't exist there.
If you change the text so that it says "turn", it wouldn't work either, because turns in Battlegrounds only refer to the Recruit phase (see Iron Sensei, Micro Machine or Lightfang Enforcer)
Hordaki
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The idea of having a 1 drop that is super OP in Battlegrounds is a cool and funny concept. I like Toxfin for that reason.
That said, I don't like how this card is completely useless for many heroes.
Nirast
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Cool idea to buff Mechs. It might be a bit too good, however.
It's like half a Kangor's Apprentice with the benefit of not depending on attack RNG nor taking up a slot in the board. I'd bump its Tavern Tier to 5 so that it is more scarce.
I've already submited Chromie. I prefered Horrifying Scream, but she had a better reception overall.
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DalvanKillder
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I prefer Treant'n Treat.
Clever Impersonator is basically a marginally worse Mind Control for 8 Mana, so it breaks class identity and might be OP.
AnAngryBadger
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I'd try to find another idea. The effect is a bit weird and doesn't have much to do with Sylvanas.
BloodMeFirst
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I thought it was too similar to Revenge of the Wild, but given the applications you listed, it's quite interesting.
R
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I like the card, it's very original. I wonder what its new flavor will be.
CursedParrot
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I don't like how similar this card is compared to Chameleos :c
Nirast
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Natural Evolution is probably my favorite. Flavor-wise, the concept of natural evolution (as in darwinism) makes a lot of sense in a school-based expansion. Also, the concept of using your mana to evolve your minions by that much is very elegant. Sadly enough, I don't think the card will be very well received, however, since it's very wordy.
Out of the other cards, the epic Arcane Evolution is also cool, but it'd be funny if you presented the same card (Recycling Module) in both comps.
Radiant First Mate attempts to give a much needed boost to Pirates. Divine Shield has good synergy with Pirates on-attack effects. The fact that she has DS herself makes it so that you can keep her after a couple buffs, unlike the very similar Toxfin. I'll admit that her inclusion in Constructed makes less sense, but since I chose a custom watermark, you could imagine she comes from a Pirate centric expansion.
Shirvallah's Disciple makes a lot of sense in both modes, but I'm worried it could be broken with Amalgadon.
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Demonxz95
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I'm not sure if giving a mass buff to all tribes would break "tribe identity" a little bit. I guess it's okay, since it's still one Tier above Felfin Navigator and Arcane Assistant; and the fact she buffs minions outside of the battlefield is less relevant in Battlegrounds than it is in Constructed.
All in all, I like the card, even if it feels a bit bland in terms of flavor. However, that's pretty common amongst BG cards, so it's not that big of a deal either.
linkblade91
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I really like how different your card is in both modes.
In Constructed, it would certainly be a part of Freeze Shaman if that deck was viable, which could happen if it had more Freeze activators.
In Battlegrounds, I like the strategic factor of weighting whether it's worthwhile to Freeze a bad board or not. It's certainly more interesting than other self-scalating cards like Hangry Dragon or Goldgrubber, which just require you to do stuff you want to do anyways. Also, the fact it synergizes with Stasis Elemental makes it a believable part of the Elemental tribe.
Here are my ideas so far. I'll give feedback later.
Thinking about making Horrifying Scream a Hunter card (depicting Sylvanas instead of a random Banshee) or Chromie a Neutral. It's Alive! is too hard to balance, so I don't think I'll go with it.
Later came quite soon, actually. Here's my feedback.
@linkblade91
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Gravedigger Spade is a bit weird in Hunter. Sure, it can't be a Priest card because it's a weapon and the fact that it only targets Deathrattles kinda fits Hunter, but I still don't see it.
I like Baroness Anastari's concept, but she's very weak right now, given Priest doesn't have ways to reduce Health like Lich did. I'd bump her damage to 2 or even 3, with a stat reduction maybe.
@Demonxz95
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Acolyte of N'zoth doesn't have Echo. 0/10. Seriously now, I like how both mechanics mesh together, but it's a bit complex and wordy, which tends to be a hinderance.
Felsoul Harvester isn't bad, but it's a bit bland.
Overall, I prefer the Acolyte of N'zoth.
@MenacingBagel
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The second wording is the one which makes the most sense. Interesting effect, even if a bit too complex.
I'd try to find a better art, however. I didn't see that's a scarecrow until you said it. Not like a scarecrow really fits the effect nor the name, also.
@KANSAS
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The effect is interesting, but it doesn't really fit the flavor of the card. I'd try to find a better name/artwork for it.
@Hordaki
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Resurrect + Steal makes a lot of sense in Priest. Kinda surprising Blizz hasn't made a card like that yet. Probably my favorite card so far.
@Arkasaur
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I think this card would really benefit from being Dual Priest + Shaman. I'd recomend using a custom watermark if you do this, since the Priest + Shaman combination isn't featured in Scholomance.
@RealJC1234TheToonist
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Not a bad intent of combining all three themes together. The artwork is quite bad, so try to find a better one.
@RealJC1234TheToonist
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Not a bad intent of combining all three themes together. The artwork is quite bad, so try to find a better one.
@anchorm4n
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I think it should either cost 3 or cost 2 but only evolve for 1. The current rarity is fine IMO, but it wouldn't feel out of place as an Epic, either.
@Alfi
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I don't think this card qualifies, sadly. It doesn't resurrect, transform or have Echo.
Here are my ideas so far. I'll give feedback later.
Thinking about making Horrifying Scream a Hunter card (depicting Sylvanas instead of a random Banshee) or Chromie a Neutral. It's Alive! is too hard to balance, so I don't think I'll go with it.
Halp! I don't know how to design 10 mana spells that aren't too polarizing :C
Bastion's effect has been halved, but it's still stronger than Tree of Life and Nozari lol. Still, I don't think it's broken compared to Forbidden Healing (it provides 10 more Health, but it's less flexible).
Philosopher's Stone is a card that benefits from empty hands (like Myra's Unstable Element). If you only have this card and Gadgetzan Auctioneer in hand, you'll be able to use three Coins with the Auctioneer in play, so I don't think that interaction is too broken.
Perfect Storm is my most balanced card, probably. It kinda breaks Shaman class identity, but not too much because Earth Shock exists. It's very overpriced compared to Plague of Death, but that's because Priest is supposed to be better than Shaman at this kinds of things.
Now, feedback:
linkblade91
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I like Chains of Kel'thuzad a lot, but the effect isn't all that strong for it to cost 10 mana. I'd also suggest a class change, both Priest and Warlock seem more fitting for the effect, and wouldn't be too far away flavor-wise either.
Convergence of Wisps is very neat too, both effect and flavor-wise. That said, this kind of win-con cards don't tend to fare well in competitions, albeit this might be the exception, especially considering the theme of the comp.
Demonxz95
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Burning Legion has very solid flavor and is very balanced. It'll make the finals for sure.
I'm not fond on Chamber of Traps, however. The effect is too complex and it's quite lacking in the flavor department.
KANSAS
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The concept of the card is alright, but nothing mind-blowing.
Balance-wise, I think it's also ok at 10. A 10/10 Stonetusk Boar is the most broken thing I can come up with, but that's ok given Pyroblast exists.
Pokeniner
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Seems too hard to use considering it costs 10 mana. Not sure how to balance it, however. The best thing I can think of is a bigger Holy Nova that doesn't affect neither heroes, but that doesn't seem all that interesting.
BloodMeFirst
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Wrath of the Legion seems too complex, IMO.
Visions of the End has a fine concept behind, but the effect is too weak for 10 mana if you compare it to Gather Your Party. Sure, hitting an Old God or something alike would be dope, but those minions require some support minions as well, which would be bad for this card. Not sure how to buff the card, however.
anchorm4n
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The flavor of the Neutral one is better, but the effect screams Rogue to me. Maybe you can get away with using the Neutral name and flavor, but make it a Rogue card, dunno.
About the two effects you mentioned, the alternative one is much more interesting in my opinion. Kinda like a massive Discover-summon.
FieselFitz
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The effect is neat. Similar to my Bastion, but much easier to balance.
I wouldn't use the Rastakhan watermark because of the reason you pointed out. In fact, I'd probably change the artwork and move it to Scholomance, since it already has Warrior-Paladin as one of possible combinations.
R
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At the start of your turn would be very bad, since you lose 10 mana and a body for playing it. I'd go with just at the end, but both at the start and at the end might also be fine.
DavdanKillder
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Both cards are interesting, but I'd say I prefer RAGEEEE!!!! slightly more.
If you decide to go with Killing Spree, make sure to change the artwork, since the current one doesn't fit Hearthstone style. It's not too bad, but given you're using a generic Rogue art, it shouldn't be difficult to find a better one.
MenacingBagel
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I think the Lifesteal is the best one, but I'd word it like "Destroy all minions and restore their combined Health to your hero".
Gaining Health is a very weird effect, specially for a non-Priest class. The Soul Swap one is hard to balance, so I wouldn't go with it.
Cg8889
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The new Purge Evil is fine, both effect and flavor-wise. The AoE part of it is a bit strange, but I guess it's ok for an Epic card to have slightly fringe effects.
LuckyTiger151
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It's way too complex and the effect is inherently very difficult to balance. I'd try with a simpler idea.
TheHoax91
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Very crazy card hahaha. This would've done very well with the old voting system from Hearthpwn, but the new star system favors more conservative effects.
It's biggest issue is that it's not very clear how it works. I guess that if you summon a minion as your opponent, you summon it for them, right? If that's the case, I don't think the card is OP, since the best you could do is use their spells against them, make bad trades, disrupt in-hand OTKs, etc. Which, I mean, isn't bad, but I don't think it's broken.
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I'll end up submitting Sturdy Quarterback, since it's my least controversial card. I'll try to find a better art or at least Photoshop the blood out, and maybe give it a more colorful palette.
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Nirast
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Undecided Undergrad has amazing flavor. I don't think its complexity should be a deal breaker, since it's about the same level as Corpsetaker.
shaveyou
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I like the new name better. The wild implication that there is a class for dinosaurs in the Scholomance Academy is pretty funny, honestly.
grumpymonk
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Freezemeinster is still my favorite card, but since you decided to scrap it out, I'd go with the 4 mana version of Attentive Student.
linkblade91
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I like this concept better than the Whip. Out of all of the iterations, I'd go with the 4 mana Horticulture Teacher. I don't think it would be broken for Druid to have a weapon, but it's not supposed to be their thing, so…
BloodMeFirst
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I don't have strong opinions here. I'd say I like the Cult Aspirant a bit better.
I'd say the center of the first card should be his chest, not his staff. As it is right now, he doesn't seem to be the main focus of the card, which is a bit weird.
Other than that, I'd say you're good to go.
Sorry, anchor, I won't submit the Gru card XD Anyways, here are my ideas so far:
Feedback:
Demonxz95
linkblade91
BloodMefist
TheHoax91
Raeth Ghostsong is a little too complex, probably. Once you understand what he does, it's cool, but it takes a couple seconds to do so.
fungusABao
anchorm4n
KANSAS
Summoning minions, you say? I'm really sorry about this.
Ehem... I'll post something serious tomorrow.
Good luck, guys! I really like all finalists this week :D
Kinda sad my card didn't make it, but it's easy to see why lol
Keep up with that, man :)
Daring Reporter
A night elf wearing non-traditional clothes.
It's simple, but hard to come up with interesting ideas for it.
I'm the one who suggested it, btw, so it was self-criticism, mostly 😂
I think this prompt is too complicated. There should be more people posting ideas by this point :/ Anyways, I came up with a newer one which is hopefully less broken.
I'll probably scrap both cards, since Radiant First Mate is broken with Goldgrubber (and Amalgadon, but that card is broken in general and already has Annoy-o-Module, so whatevs) and Shirvallah's Champion is probably a bad idea all around.
Meanwhile, here's some more feedback:
CursedParrot
If you change the text so that it says "turn", it wouldn't work either, because turns in Battlegrounds only refer to the Recruit phase (see Iron Sensei, Micro Machine or Lightfang Enforcer)
Hordaki
That said, I don't like how this card is completely useless for many heroes.
Nirast
It's like half a Kangor's Apprentice with the benefit of not depending on attack RNG nor taking up a slot in the board. I'd bump its Tavern Tier to 5 so that it is more scarce.
I've already submited Chromie. I prefered Horrifying Scream, but she had a better reception overall.
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DalvanKillder
Clever Impersonator is basically a marginally worse Mind Control for 8 Mana, so it breaks class identity and might be OP.
AnAngryBadger
BloodMeFirst
R
CursedParrot
Nirast
Out of the other cards, the epic Arcane Evolution is also cool, but it'd be funny if you presented the same card (Recycling Module) in both comps.
I have two ideas for this so far:
Feedback (so far):
Demonxz95
All in all, I like the card, even if it feels a bit bland in terms of flavor. However, that's pretty common amongst BG cards, so it's not that big of a deal either.
linkblade91
In Constructed, it would certainly be a part of Freeze Shaman if that deck was viable, which could happen if it had more Freeze activators.
In Battlegrounds, I like the strategic factor of weighting whether it's worthwhile to Freeze a bad board or not. It's certainly more interesting than other self-scalating cards like Hangry Dragon or Goldgrubber, which just require you to do stuff you want to do anyways. Also, the fact it synergizes with Stasis Elemental makes it a believable part of the Elemental tribe.
Bump.
Later came quite soon, actually. Here's my feedback.
@linkblade91
I like Baroness Anastari's concept, but she's very weak right now, given Priest doesn't have ways to reduce Health like Lich did. I'd bump her damage to 2 or even 3, with a stat reduction maybe.
@Demonxz95
Felsoul Harvester isn't bad, but it's a bit bland.
Overall, I prefer the Acolyte of N'zoth.
@MenacingBagel
I'd try to find a better art, however. I didn't see that's a scarecrow until you said it. Not like a scarecrow really fits the effect nor the name, also.
@KANSAS
@Hordaki
@Arkasaur
@RealJC1234TheToonist
@RealJC1234TheToonist
@anchorm4n
@Alfi
Here are my ideas so far. I'll give feedback later.
Thinking about making Horrifying Scream a Hunter card (depicting Sylvanas instead of a random Banshee) or Chromie a Neutral. It's Alive! is too hard to balance, so I don't think I'll go with it.
Maybe it's targeted, dunno.
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BasilAngus
Hordaki
BloodMeFirst
FieselFitz
Also, the token should have no rarity gem. If you have problems to apply a watermark to a card without rarity gem, I can explain how to do it.
allthehype
anchorm4n
Watch out because the last of the cards you presented is Neutral (looks similar to Rogue, but it's not).
Halp! I don't know how to design 10 mana spells that aren't too polarizing :C
Now, feedback:
linkblade91
Convergence of Wisps is very neat too, both effect and flavor-wise. That said, this kind of win-con cards don't tend to fare well in competitions, albeit this might be the exception, especially considering the theme of the comp.
Demonxz95
I'm not fond on Chamber of Traps, however. The effect is too complex and it's quite lacking in the flavor department.
KANSAS
Balance-wise, I think it's also ok at 10. A 10/10 Stonetusk Boar is the most broken thing I can come up with, but that's ok given Pyroblast exists.
Pokeniner
BloodMeFirst
Visions of the End has a fine concept behind, but the effect is too weak for 10 mana if you compare it to Gather Your Party. Sure, hitting an Old God or something alike would be dope, but those minions require some support minions as well, which would be bad for this card. Not sure how to buff the card, however.
anchorm4n
About the two effects you mentioned, the alternative one is much more interesting in my opinion. Kinda like a massive Discover-summon.
FieselFitz
I wouldn't use the Rastakhan watermark because of the reason you pointed out. In fact, I'd probably change the artwork and move it to Scholomance, since it already has Warrior-Paladin as one of possible combinations.
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DavdanKillder
If you decide to go with Killing Spree, make sure to change the artwork, since the current one doesn't fit Hearthstone style. It's not too bad, but given you're using a generic Rogue art, it shouldn't be difficult to find a better one.
MenacingBagel
Gaining Health is a very weird effect, specially for a non-Priest class. The Soul Swap one is hard to balance, so I wouldn't go with it.
Cg8889
LuckyTiger151
TheHoax91
It's biggest issue is that it's not very clear how it works. I guess that if you summon a minion as your opponent, you summon it for them, right? If that's the case, I don't think the card is OP, since the best you could do is use their spells against them, make bad trades, disrupt in-hand OTKs, etc. Which, I mean, isn't bad, but I don't think it's broken.
Thanks 😁
Here's my first idea. Not sure if it's too overkill.
I'll give feedback tomorrow. I might post more cards, if I come up with something else.
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I'll end up submitting Sturdy Quarterback, since it's my least controversial card. I'll try to find a better art or at least Photoshop the blood out, and maybe give it a more colorful palette.
More feedback:
Nirast
shaveyou
grumpymonk
linkblade91
BloodMeFirst