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  • Tetsuo's Avatar
    Magma Rager 840 638 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years ago

    Definitely one of the most influential expansions ever, and my personal favorite. I get why a lot of people hate it (most of its cards are major meta players even to this day), but I just think it has some of the most creative design that the game has seen, such as Lorekeeper Polkelt, Sphere of Sapience, the Soul Fragments package in DH, Jandice Barov, Mindrender Illucia, Secret Passage, Instructor Fireheart, Rattlegore, and even Transfer Student

    I enjoyed playing so many cards from this expansion. I'll definitely miss it in standard. 

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  • Nokt's Avatar
    Funnel Cakes 285 83 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 2 years ago

    How is there no mention of Cram Session? Mage may not be top dog right now, but this card often feels like an unearned amount of card draw. It was absolutely soulcrushing to play against before the quest mage nerf. Mozaki would probably have felt far more balanced without it too.

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  • Caro's Avatar
    Dragon 2215 2485 Posts Joined 03/12/2020
    Posted 2 years ago

    I can't wait to see this expansion rotate. So bored of it already, even more so than AoO. Didn't like the theme and boring decks like face hunter are basically a third Scholomance cards. Funny thing though is I can't really pin point one or a few cards I dislike, it's just the expansion as a whole I want gone from standard already. 

    Is it April yet, guys?

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  • HuntardHuntard's Avatar
    Mailbox Dancer 875 744 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 2 years ago

    Honestly, the whole Guardian Animals package (Teacher's Pet and Twilight Runner). It wasn't so insane and it has been a while since I have come across anyone running it. I just got really tired of looking at the art. TBF, I was kinda neckbearding the game when Scholomance came out so that might have something to do with it.

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  • AngryShuckie's Avatar
    1705 1735 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 2 years ago

    Quote From Avalon
    I can't even count the number of times that Wand Thief gave my opponent lethal or prevented me from winning the game with cards they had no right to play. Breaking class identity to its fullest, we can say.

    With burgle rogue existing, and having received tools all the way back to GvG, I would say rogue has every right to play any card. That IS part of their class identity and Wand Thief was a super elegant merger of how rogue and mage's value generation works.

    However, those two forms of value generation are very different. Burgle rogue is like rolling a D100 and embracing how often the value changes, while casino mage is like rolling a D6 and injecting some randomness, but in a fairly repeatable way. That sort of consistency is not really part of burgle rogue, and hence why Wand Thief straddles the line of rogue's class identity. (Note it is not so much the size of the pool of mage spells - I'm pretty sure Keywarden Ivory's discover pool is smaller - as the amount of redundancy in it, making specific effects easy to find even if specific cards are not.)

    FWIW: as a burgle main I love Wand Thief, but agree her time in Standard should come to an end.

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    • Avalon's Avatar
      Salty Dog 1550 2105 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
      Posted 2 years ago

      Yes and no. Wand Thief is a Burgle Rogue card, but not only: it's a generally good card, which means that it saw play even outside those decks. On top of it, it's a very good card, meaning that it is not bound to Burgle Rogue's success by any means.

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      • AngryShuckie's Avatar
        1705 1735 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
        Posted 2 years ago

        I meant 'burgle rogue' as a class identity feature as well as the archetype itself. Nothing says a burgle card cannot be independently strong and used outside of a dedicated burgle deck, and it won't be creating new class identity issues for doing that.

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