I guess in that exact scenario King Phaoris would be pretty amazing. But how consistently can you get there? You need a bunch of 1mana secrets, so that prismatic lense reliably hits one, and you need few other minions so that prismatic lense reliably hits the King. And then you get a 5/5 and a 10 drop plus some 1 mana minions for 5 mana, but is that enough to swing a game? I personally doubt it, but I would not mind to be proven wrong.
I do not think it is so easy to play around. You wait until the opponent has gone wide before you play the secret. Then opponent has to either wait with attacking face until he can buff his minions to >3, or sacrifice some. It can severely limit your options, and you will have to check for it and after the check it can still be either this one or Ice Barrier. Only weapons can check for it I think.
If you do this on a reborn minion which has not died yet, do you get two minions, one with reborn used (and 1 health) and one with reborn still not used?
That the way i get it also... and if the minion also have a deathrattle effect it trigger 3 times ... like Khartut Defender
Actually 4 times. The original triggers twice (reborn -> reborn used) and the copy triggers twice (reborn -> reborn used).
Erh no you swapped the cost first. So your spell in your hand has now 10 mana cost, and this card costs you 1 mana, and when you play it, for 1 mana you get a 10 mana minion. So after you play Prismatic Lens you have in your hand a one mana Phaoris and a 10 mana spell. Then you can play Phaoris for one mana, and since you have a 10 mana spell in your hand now, you get a 10 mana minion on the board.
Well sure, that one secret will cost ten, but the rest of your hand will be (fairly useless) one cost spells in order to make the combo work, which means overall you're getting a lot less out of it compared to a deck that just runs big spells.
A secret pally does not consider his one mana secrets useless. If you run a lot of cheap spells this minion combo's nicely with Prismatic Lens. Sure if you manage to get a hand full of big spells and still survive and then can play this at turn 10...these are a lot of if's, and will have to put a lot of late game spells in your deck and draw them as well, which is not nice since you would rather have a playable card in your hand.
Looks pretty interesting. Somewhat different to what I'm used to see in the meta at the moment, so I can imagine that people are going to be very surprised to go against an OTK hunter.
Good but pretty easily played around. As always, the strength of any individual secret will depend on A) the collective strength with other secrets (how hard it is to play around, how much value is generated, etc), and B) the raw value on its own.
Doubtful that you want to run this in a Tempo Mage list, but would be very detrimental to Aggro decks if you played it at the right moment.
Erh no you swapped the cost first. So your spell in your hand has now 10 mana cost, and this card costs you 1 mana, and when you play it, for 1 mana you get a 10 mana minion. So after you play Prismatic Lens you have in your hand a one mana Phaoris and a 10 mana spell. Then you can play Phaoris for one mana, and since you have a 10 mana spell in your hand now, you get a 10 mana minion on the board.
Well sure, that one secret will cost ten, but the rest of your hand will be (fairly useless) one cost spells in order to make the combo work, which means overall you're getting a lot less out of it compared to a deck that just runs big spells.
I know it's not much, but since I'm not an Arena player I was very happy to get 8 wins on my current run (playing on my "free" ticket ahead of the rotation reset next week so stopped at 2 loses) - this literally doubles the number of Arena wins I have.
I think mine, at least so far, is Earthquake. It's just an amazing control tool, especially against all those token druids. But the power level of this expansion seems to be pretty high over all, so there are a lot of interesting cards in it.
I like that mage is getting cheap board clears but I hate that it's a secret. Not a big fan of secretmage in general, but at least it used to be weak against wide boards.
Well we can forget about that with Flame Ward and that new mage minion.
The reborn tag makes this a lot stronger than Obsidian Destroyer TBH. It makes it very likely that the guy will stick for a turn and continue to generate annoying scarabs.
What I mean: after you play Prismatic Lens you have in your hand a one mana Phaoris and a 10 mana spell, since the swapped costs. Then you can play Phaoris for one mana, and since you have a 10 mana spell in your hand now, you get a 10 mana minion on the board, and all this for a lousy 5 mana in total.
Excellent, thanks for the info. There are plenty of good 10 drops for Conjurer's Calling, glad to hear a degenerate option like Highkeeper Ra isn't one of them. Now here's hoping for a 12 cost minion in the final reveal..
Not a single Dragon released so far in this expansion, in the Year of the Dragon. I know, I know they don't *have* to add Dragons, but I LIKE Dragons damn it! I want more Dragons in my Year of the Dragon! If they get added in the last expansion we'll only be able to play with them for a little over a year!
Strong defensive card but how much better is it than rotten applebaum?
In plot twist Warlock, this seems a lot stronger: there are multiple ways to cheat out copies of drawn minions(Betrug, Dorian), and every copy of this guy will soak 2 attacks and heal for 6 instead of just tanking 1 attack and healing for 4.
I guess this is supposed to be Al'Akir's little brother? Very powerful legendary, wouldn't surprise me if this became a staple in control lists and maybe even heavier midrange decks. A good point of comparison is Blazecaller: Siamat doesn't require the elemental setup, does 1 point of damage more when rushed into a minion and has several alternative modes it can be played in, whereas with Blazecaller the only clear advantage is sending that 5 damage face.
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Thanks for the reminder, I'll start a run now :)
New Neutral Minion - King Phaoris
I guess in that exact scenario King Phaoris would be pretty amazing. But how consistently can you get there? You need a bunch of 1mana secrets, so that prismatic lense reliably hits one, and you need few other minions so that prismatic lense reliably hits the King. And then you get a 5/5 and a 10 drop plus some 1 mana minions for 5 mana, but is that enough to swing a game? I personally doubt it, but I would not mind to be proven wrong.
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I do not think it is so easy to play around. You wait until the opponent has gone wide before you play the secret. Then opponent has to either wait with attacking face until he can buff his minions to >3, or sacrifice some. It can severely limit your options, and you will have to check for it and after the check it can still be either this one or Ice Barrier. Only weapons can check for it I think.
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Siamat, of course
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I stand corrected ! :-)
Can we have autocorrect?
Don't tell me you'd prefer typing out "Y'Shaarj, rage unbound" to just "Shaa" and then clicking on the wanted text ;-)
New Neutral Minion - King Phaoris
A secret pally does not consider his one mana secrets useless. If you run a lot of cheap spells this minion combo's nicely with Prismatic Lens. Sure if you manage to get a hand full of big spells and still survive and then can play this at turn 10...these are a lot of if's, and will have to put a lot of late game spells in your deck and draw them as well, which is not nice since you would rather have a playable card in your hand.
Looks pretty interesting. Somewhat different to what I'm used to see in the meta at the moment, so I can imagine that people are going to be very surprised to go against an OTK hunter.
A fun deck for sure, especially if it works!
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Good but pretty easily played around. As always, the strength of any individual secret will depend on A) the collective strength with other secrets (how hard it is to play around, how much value is generated, etc), and B) the raw value on its own.
Doubtful that you want to run this in a Tempo Mage list, but would be very detrimental to Aggro decks if you played it at the right moment.
New Neutral Minion - King Phaoris
Well sure, that one secret will cost ten, but the rest of your hand will be (fairly useless) one cost spells in order to make the combo work, which means overall you're getting a lot less out of it compared to a deck that just runs big spells.
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I know it's not much, but since I'm not an Arena player I was very happy to get 8 wins on my current run (playing on my "free" ticket ahead of the rotation reset next week so stopped at 2 loses) - this literally doubles the number of Arena wins I have.
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I think mine, at least so far, is Earthquake. It's just an amazing control tool, especially against all those token druids. But the power level of this expansion seems to be pretty high over all, so there are a lot of interesting cards in it.
New Mage Spell - Flame Ward
I like that mage is getting cheap board clears but I hate that it's a secret. Not a big fan of secretmage in general, but at least it used to be weak against wide boards.
Well we can forget about that with Flame Ward and that new mage minion.
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If you hit the second half of a reborn minion with Wretched Reclaimer it gets reborn back. A very good combo with Grandmummy.
New Neutral Minion - Wrapped Golem
The reborn tag makes this a lot stronger than Obsidian Destroyer TBH. It makes it very likely that the guy will stick for a turn and continue to generate annoying scarabs.
New Neutral Minion - King Phaoris
What I mean: after you play Prismatic Lens you have in your hand a one mana Phaoris and a 10 mana spell, since the swapped costs. Then you can play Phaoris for one mana, and since you have a 10 mana spell in your hand now, you get a 10 mana minion on the board, and all this for a lousy 5 mana in total.
New Neutral Minion - King Phaoris
You'd be summoning a board full of one-drops tho.
Very cool card. I'm interested in playing this even if it isn't the strongest thing in the meta just for style points.
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Excellent, thanks for the info. There are plenty of good 10 drops for Conjurer's Calling, glad to hear a degenerate option like Highkeeper Ra isn't one of them. Now here's hoping for a 12 cost minion in the final reveal..
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Not a single Dragon released so far in this expansion, in the Year of the Dragon. I know, I know they don't *have* to add Dragons, but I LIKE Dragons damn it! I want more Dragons in my Year of the Dragon! If they get added in the last expansion we'll only be able to play with them for a little over a year!
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New Neutral Minion - Khartut Defender
In plot twist Warlock, this seems a lot stronger: there are multiple ways to cheat out copies of drawn minions(Betrug, Dorian), and every copy of this guy will soak 2 attacks and heal for 6 instead of just tanking 1 attack and healing for 4.
Khartut Defender
Arguably it is 1 less stat if opponent doesn't have 5 damage in a single thing...
New Neutral Minion - Siamat
I guess this is supposed to be Al'Akir's little brother? Very powerful legendary, wouldn't surprise me if this became a staple in control lists and maybe even heavier midrange decks. A good point of comparison is Blazecaller: Siamat doesn't require the elemental setup, does 1 point of damage more when rushed into a minion and has several alternative modes it can be played in, whereas with Blazecaller the only clear advantage is sending that 5 damage face.