I must admit that I am interested in this discussion mainly because of its philosophic aspect. I don't give a damn about me or anyone else owning Tyrande. So I've explained the problem to my girlfriend and we tried to solve it from a moralist point of view. Here's what we concluded:
People should focus on themselves. That means, there WAS a "cost" for obtaining the original Tyrande, no matter how big or small. But OP among other players deemed this cost worth the reward at the time. And this is where the discussion should end. The fact that somebody else gets his or her hands on the same reward for less or no cost is irrelevant to your own experience. You can still enjoy your skin. Other people don't directly influence you in a negative way.
My girlfriend related to the Tyrande-issue with a story from school: there was a pupil who was allowed to leave early once a week (don't know why). Another pupil went forth and asked the prinicipal to be allowed to leave early as well - that's just fine, everybody can plead for equal rights. But when the second pupil was rejected (probably because nr. 1 had reasons nr. 2 couldn't provide), nr. 2 then asked to strip nr. 1 from their privilege to reinstate equality. And this is not okay. As long as nr. 2 isn't directly or indirectly harmed by nr. 1s privilege, nr. 2 may try to get it for his/herself, but should refrain from trying to pull down nr. 1.
OP repeated several times he is angry at blizzard and happy for other people getting Tyrande, I didn't miss that. So there's no actively trying to pull someone else down. But, and that's my whole point, as long as there's no downside in the new deal for you, there's no base for a complaint. Tyrande was worth it at the time you paid for her and that's it. I can understand and I do respect your frustration and your decision to not longer support Blizzard with real money because of this, but I've come to a different conclusion for myself. Thanks for raising the issue to my attention in the first place though, I gained something from this discussion, too.
Just out of curiosity: would it be okay for you if they put her behind a pay wall instead? Like everyone can get her, but for the usual 10$? I missed out Lazul and would be willing to pay for her of Blizzard offered that opportunity. But I get your general argument, it surely is a letdown when you pay for something and later on everyone gets it for free.
Alex - mana cheat is always viable and this is a smooth fit for highlander hunter
Kronx - wanna try Galakrond in shaman, rogue and warrior
Waxadred - count me in on the hopeless optimistic who try to make DR Rogue work
Probably ancharr, PW looks cool.
I got the big bundle, 2.300 gold and a bit over 10.000 dust - should work out :-) I won't use that mass-disenchant button this time though. There are lots of seemingly OP cards and Blizzards nerfs are coming quicker these days.
I would really like to try Aggro Galakrond Warrior, Pirate Warrior, Waxadred Galakrond Rogue and that Quest/Galakrond Shaman. Let's hope for some good pack opening RNG!
Also thanks for creating this thread, I'd love to get some ideas from you guys!
Really disappointed of warrior's invoke cards. I was looking forward to trying to make an aggro Galakrond deck work, but the invoke cards are surprisingly bad and awkward to play. The first swing of the weapon is okay-ish because of invoke, but the spell seems completely garbage. I put together a deck nonetheless, feel free to tell me how greedy and bad it is. Sigh.
I'm sorry, I've got to ask a really stupid question. I enjoy playing Kovachuts Thief Priest in Wild. Now let's say my opponent has The Lich King on board and I play Mindflayer Kaahrj on him, then proceed to destroy kaahrj with Wretched Reclaimer. I will end up with my own lich king and a second kaahrj.
The question is: will the second kaahrjs deathrattle summon another lich king for me? Same goes for summoning kaahrj through Twilight's Call (or Cube or Embalming Ritual). Would its deathrattle do something? If I understand your comments correctly, that should not work which is really a shame.
I agree with DoubleSummon though... it's a tech card which will hardly see play as long as there's no T1 deck to target with it. Just like Harrison Jones and Captain Greenskin for example, which were played a lot when boomsday came out and everybody and their mother tried Bomb Warrior and teched for Wrenchcalibur. The potential uses though... Odd Warrior, Infinite Armor Druid, Thekal Paladin, negating the armor gain from all hero cards... incredible.
I rated 4 stars because it's a game changer but won't see much play.
Now you got me curious enough to dig in deeper. Forbidden Ancient fits the growing with more mana part, but I don't know about the trumpets and it's no common either...
The trumpets could be the key. Has anyone an idea about that? Maybe entrance sound or something?
Annoy-o-Tron is the first card which comes to mind.
There's that horn in his hand (trumpets), it's a common, there are bigger versions of it for more mana (like Psych-o-Tron), all of them are low(est) tier. And you could argue it's a "he".
Nice effect, 5 mana 4/4 draw 2 is not bad. And when you think about how this can draw you two cards that were reduced to 1 through Academic Espionage, or draw 2 Pogo-Hoppers, or Summon two waxadreds this looks even better.
But why is this card worded so badly??? Why doesn't it just say "Battlecry: Draw two cards that didn't start in your deck". This would save like 2 and a half lines of text, and it would read a lot better.
I fully support your reasoning but would even go further with the conclusion. This is a 5 star card, maybe even a nerf candidate. Think what you could do with a shark on board... 4 waxadreds? 4 pogo hoppers? All heistbaron cards? Consistent draw of the shuffled cards was all that was missing for pogo rogue. This is going to be bonkers.
I must admit that I am interested in this discussion mainly because of its philosophic aspect. I don't give a damn about me or anyone else owning Tyrande. So I've explained the problem to my girlfriend and we tried to solve it from a moralist point of view. Here's what we concluded:
People should focus on themselves. That means, there WAS a "cost" for obtaining the original Tyrande, no matter how big or small. But OP among other players deemed this cost worth the reward at the time. And this is where the discussion should end. The fact that somebody else gets his or her hands on the same reward for less or no cost is irrelevant to your own experience. You can still enjoy your skin. Other people don't directly influence you in a negative way.
My girlfriend related to the Tyrande-issue with a story from school: there was a pupil who was allowed to leave early once a week (don't know why). Another pupil went forth and asked the prinicipal to be allowed to leave early as well - that's just fine, everybody can plead for equal rights. But when the second pupil was rejected (probably because nr. 1 had reasons nr. 2 couldn't provide), nr. 2 then asked to strip nr. 1 from their privilege to reinstate equality. And this is not okay. As long as nr. 2 isn't directly or indirectly harmed by nr. 1s privilege, nr. 2 may try to get it for his/herself, but should refrain from trying to pull down nr. 1.
OP repeated several times he is angry at blizzard and happy for other people getting Tyrande, I didn't miss that. So there's no actively trying to pull someone else down. But, and that's my whole point, as long as there's no downside in the new deal for you, there's no base for a complaint. Tyrande was worth it at the time you paid for her and that's it. I can understand and I do respect your frustration and your decision to not longer support Blizzard with real money because of this, but I've come to a different conclusion for myself. Thanks for raising the issue to my attention in the first place though, I gained something from this discussion, too.
Just out of curiosity: would it be okay for you if they put her behind a pay wall instead? Like everyone can get her, but for the usual 10$? I missed out Lazul and would be willing to pay for her of Blizzard offered that opportunity. But I get your general argument, it surely is a letdown when you pay for something and later on everyone gets it for free.
My list:
Alex - mana cheat is always viable and this is a smooth fit for highlander hunter
Kronx - wanna try Galakrond in shaman, rogue and warrior
Waxadred - count me in on the hopeless optimistic who try to make DR Rogue work
Probably ancharr, PW looks cool.
I got the big bundle, 2.300 gold and a bit over 10.000 dust - should work out :-) I won't use that mass-disenchant button this time though. There are lots of seemingly OP cards and Blizzards nerfs are coming quicker these days.
I would really like to try Aggro Galakrond Warrior, Pirate Warrior, Waxadred Galakrond Rogue and that Quest/Galakrond Shaman. Let's hope for some good pack opening RNG!
Also thanks for creating this thread, I'd love to get some ideas from you guys!
Nice deck, thanks for sharing! What do you think about Sharkfin Fan? It would combo nicely with Skybarge.
Thanks for sharing! Cool skin and fitting, since Sylvanas seems to be the focal point of WoW: Shadowlands.
Really disappointed of warrior's invoke cards. I was looking forward to trying to make an aggro Galakrond deck work, but the invoke cards are surprisingly bad and awkward to play. The first swing of the weapon is okay-ish because of invoke, but the spell seems completely garbage. I put together a deck nonetheless, feel free to tell me how greedy and bad it is. Sigh.
I had a similar idea - https://outof.cards/forums/out-of-cards/site-feedback-ideas/1095-can-we-have-autocorrect
But yours is better. I second this witty gentleman!
I'm having a lot of fun with Bomb Warrior too and just reached level 60 :-) And Deathwing is actually the coolest hero skin in the game right now!
I'm sorry, I've got to ask a really stupid question. I enjoy playing Kovachuts Thief Priest in Wild. Now let's say my opponent has The Lich King on board and I play Mindflayer Kaahrj on him, then proceed to destroy kaahrj with Wretched Reclaimer. I will end up with my own lich king and a second kaahrj.
The question is: will the second kaahrjs deathrattle summon another lich king for me? Same goes for summoning kaahrj through Twilight's Call (or Cube or Embalming Ritual). Would its deathrattle do something? If I understand your comments correctly, that should not work which is really a shame.
This expansion is hands down batshit crazy.
I agree with DoubleSummon though... it's a tech card which will hardly see play as long as there's no T1 deck to target with it. Just like Harrison Jones and Captain Greenskin for example, which were played a lot when boomsday came out and everybody and their mother tried Bomb Warrior and teched for Wrenchcalibur.
The potential uses though... Odd Warrior, Infinite Armor Druid, Thekal Paladin, negating the armor gain from all hero cards... incredible.
I rated 4 stars because it's a game changer but won't see much play.
Epic filler. Sigh. This is way too situational to be played in a competitive deck.
Now you got me curious enough to dig in deeper. Forbidden Ancient fits the growing with more mana part, but I don't know about the trumpets and it's no common either...
The trumpets could be the key. Has anyone an idea about that? Maybe entrance sound or something?
Annoy-o-Tron is the first card which comes to mind.
There's that horn in his hand (trumpets), it's a common, there are bigger versions of it for more mana (like Psych-o-Tron), all of them are low(est) tier. And you could argue it's a "he".
I fully support your reasoning but would even go further with the conclusion. This is a 5 star card, maybe even a nerf candidate. Think what you could do with a shark on board... 4 waxadreds? 4 pogo hoppers? All heistbaron cards? Consistent draw of the shuffled cards was all that was missing for pogo rogue. This is going to be bonkers.
Wow. Shaman ends up way worse than the other classes so far. I'm no fan of the hunter cards either, but they are at least playable. This is terrible!
I call trash legendary. Would hate to get this from my packs.
Righteous Protector?
Solid for a 3 drop and more fuel for DR Rogue. I like it!
Ironbark Protector fits the first three lines, but I don't know what to do about the fourth...