That pressure plate is smart tech against priest I guess the problem is you don't win against iceblock/ time out decks.. Tbh think only bomb warrior can win vs time out zephyr paladin, and Mage loses to players that are smart enough to not attack and let the mage mill itself.
Side Note: What ever happened to Freeze Shaman?!?!?! Print a few cards for the archetype and then never mention it again? Come on, Blizzard!!!
Was a meme, blizzard knew it was a meme, people hated shaman a lot when koft was in the planning phase so they gave the class the worst cards ever printed.
Tbh I am never using that thread again, got scammed once and it's enough if I need anyone to do the 80 gold quest I will just trade with my friends who normally play with me with theirs when they have it. Prefer to gain half the gold than to give it to jerks.
Yes! I don't know what you'd want to swap, but I was thinking Call of the Wild would be great in a Highlander deck, especially if you play it before Zul'jin.
I actually missed hunter, and I agree the card is quite potent, it was too slow/outclassed before it rotated but now the meta is a bit slower than it was back then in the midrange shaman/patches era.. so it might fit, as to what to replace well you could look at win rates and cards that feel less impactful and switch them highlander decks tend to be very flexible.
Just initial thoughts and analysis also will add a star rating in the current meta/card pool
the stars are like this: (like Trumps rating)
5 - meta defining defines a tier 1 deck
4 - is in a tier 1 deck or defines a tier 2 deck
3 - is in a tier 2 deck or tech in tier 1 or defines a tier 3 deck
2- tried a bit then dropped
1- meme/awful.
Neutral:
N'Zoth, the Corruptor- 5 - the meta is not that fast that this card won't see play in a control list, goes very well with sylvanas and there's no way sylvanas doesn't see play.
[Hearthstone Card (sylvannas windrunner) Not Found] -5- this card is insane we all know that it goes very well in hunter currently Nine Lives is a 3 mana mind control with it. apart from that any other slow midrange/control deck would play her.
Ragnaros the Firelord -5- this card was HOF before elementals were a thing in standard currently there is little synergy apart from mage and shaman with only a few cards that don't see play, but in mage it's really good with [Hearthstone Card (elemental invocation) Not Found], the card can also just be slapped into a variety of decks anyway.
The Curator -3- dragons are kinda dead in standard, beasts are everywhere and there is not really a generalist murloc you would want to draw, seems situational maybe in a sort of a lackey shaman with amalgam just to draw 3..?
Emperor Thaurissan -5- key card in any combo deck and enables them, there's no way no new combo deck we didn't think about shows up.
Kun the Forgotten King -2- maybe tried in quest druid the card is good but currently doesn't do any crazy combo without Aviana and a 0 mana 7/7 that is a dead card until turn 10 is kind of meh.
Hunter:
Lock and Load -2- spell heavy hunters value engine, but are random hunter cards for 2 mana good enough.. nah I don't think so I used this card in solo adventures from rime to time wasn't impressed by it too much (by that I mean.. best case scenario it's not that great.)
Call of the Wild -4- highlander hunter is very strong and you slot it in for a more impactful zuljin it's a really good card and game closer, think it might be run in the deck cause of mainly zuljin and it's a good card just that when it got nerfed the meta was really fast and then death knights came around, so this card got quite left behind also go outclassed by To My Side! in spell hunter.
Mage:
Babbling Book- 3 - was a decent card but nothing really there are some really bad mage cards it's a 1/1+ that bad classic card, was briefly played in the past.
Flamewaker -5- now THIS is something mage needed, now more than ever with so many cheap spells/spell generation this card is as insane as ever tempo mage is back!
Paladin:
Mysterious Challenger -3- who am I? none of your business. this + the best paladin secret in the game makes secret paladin which got a ton of support in ROS a real contender this is kind of the late game the secret paladin needs.. it currently runs out of gas and that's it.. but MC makes the deck shine again that being said I think secret paladin is either a tier 3 or 2 deck cause of the power creep in the game
Avenge -4- this is the best paladin secret in the game it's worth including even in murloc decks I think so even if "Secret paladin" is not a thing this card might see play in the more aggressive paladin decks. Edit: facepalm on the murloc paladin -> Prismatic Lens as @PopeNeia pointed out.
Shaman:
Evolve -5- slotted into quest shaman instead of mutate or in addition to mutate also good in aggro shaman.
Thing from Below-4- not as good as when it was in standard cause of no totem golem, 2 mana flametongue totem, and no taskarr totemic, but it's still a really good card and great evolve target.
[Hearthstone Card (swashburglar-) Not Found]?- dunno how to evaluate thief rogue + 3 more thief cards don't think it will make the class suddenly great I am not sure how rogue does atm, but I didn't see them a lot lately. it does make the turn 2 underbelly more consistent.
Priest:
Lightbomb-5- res priest might make a return and this card just makes the deck much much better it's aoe they need to work currently they need either a 2 of in mass hysteria or to wait until turn 9.. this card just makes priest good again think res prist will be tier 1 with sylvanas being back.
Vol'jin-2- the card is decent, but I think it doesn't fit well into the current decks.
Warlock:
Imp Gang Boss -4- zoo is tier 2 and one really good 3 drop won't change it.
Playing hs since 2014 regularly, I am 0 likely to recommend it to anyone why? Cause it's so expensive.
The economy is the same since beta yet there are about 30 times more cards in the game, sure you could keep with standard but MEH it feels like you either grind daily quests or arena or you stay out.
Speaking about arena, I like the mode but the rewards for it feel bad yes I get a net profit after 4 wins but the rewards seem lacking and again, not updated since beta...
There need to be more rewards, or better you know what you could make oppenning single packs less miserable decrease the chance for a 40 dust pack by a lot, make epics more commons.
Epics are the most expensive cards in hs not legendaries since most of the time you need more of them and they are about 1/4 as rare as a legendary and yet you find so few of them.. Also you can get duplicates of them.
Played gwent before, don't see why couldn't they implement the discover the rarest card option that's a good way to feel good about opening packs.. Or maybe increase pack sizes from 5 to 6 or dust value of common from 5 to 10.
If gwent was half as fun as hs mechanically it would be more popular but sadly it's just not as fun and simplistic.
Also people have been asking for achievements and progress forever... All they did was and achievement for 500 and 1000 wins that's nice but not enough..
Would suggest using the class level system for more rewards it's kind of a pointless system past level 10 make it drop rewards every few levels and remove cap just like in over watch.
Also class specific packs are something blizzard should look into it would make mining a class much easier as well as give easier access to new players..
Just wondering the implications of this, [Hearthstone Card (karthut defender) Not Found] is one of the most synergistic cards ever with N'zoth sure in wild it's not a thing cause wild have much better comboes.
I am not that great of a deck builder any crazy decks you can make with N'zoth in standard?
My first instinct is quest warlock since the deck runs a lot of deathrattle taunts and N'zoth would ressurect them all to make a really strong swing turn.
sure there are 21 other cards we don't know about but let's theoricraft a bit before the 4th of october.
Why do you feel the need to capitalize the mon in pokemon? that's weird..
I guess it's just how I'm used to seeing it asa kid. The logo looks capitalized and it stands for Pocket Monsters, so it's just how I've always written it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Totally agree with OP. The M looks capitalized in the logo. Not so weird.
Nerd time!
Technically, writing the M in capital isn't wrong at all: in fact, Pokemon stands for "Pocket Monsters".
However, with time writing the name normally (just the first letter in capital) was much quicker, so...
Before I started to use hearthpwn my main lurking forum was serebii, nobody there ever capitalized the M in Pokémon, that's mainly cause it's a main streamed word and there is no need to.
Except keleseth you can actually use the list from rastakan's rumble and add a few new cards, you are using slow heals and hellfire, you should not run such cards in zoo they are too slow. Definetly add life drinker, doom guards, power overwhelming..
Use a heal package you don't have to go all on on heals, use the remaining slots for other packages: demons/lackeys/eggs/self damage/discard.
Blizzard should fix this as a mechanic, if you paid a certain mana cost for something it should keep the mana cost you paid for on board this would solve CC and any other future problem..
This seems fair to me, and I have heard it suggested before.
My question is, if the minion gets bounced back to your hand.
By your own OR by say, SAP. What cost does it go back to your hand at?
Or to the deck if it gets shuffled?
Concistancy would become a problem. The discounted card looses it's discount when used.
It would revent via the enchantment keep/unkeep rules there is a problem with prelete/undertakah with taurrisan/prismatic lens that would permanently reduce they cost (cause my suggestion is to make reduced cost an enchantment) but that's fine I guess it's much more complicated to do..
Blizzard should fix this as a mechanic, if you paid a certain mana cost for something it should keep the mana cost you paid for on board this would solve CC and any other future problem..
It's in the pool 100%.
Nope, they will not appear on zephyrs otherwise you would see them in wild and it's not the case.
Got to 10/2 not sure if I should try for 12 I got Reno and siamat and quite a good tempo core :/
That pressure plate is smart tech against priest I guess the problem is you don't win against iceblock/ time out decks.. Tbh think only bomb warrior can win vs time out zephyr paladin, and Mage loses to players that are smart enough to not attack and let the mage mill itself.
Was a meme, blizzard knew it was a meme, people hated shaman a lot when koft was in the planning phase so they gave the class the worst cards ever printed.
Tbh I am never using that thread again, got scammed once and it's enough if I need anyone to do the 80 gold quest I will just trade with my friends who normally play with me with theirs when they have it. Prefer to gain half the gold than to give it to jerks.
I actually missed hunter, and I agree the card is quite potent, it was too slow/outclassed before it rotated but now the meta is a bit slower than it was back then in the midrange shaman/patches era.. so it might fit, as to what to replace well you could look at win rates and cards that feel less impactful and switch them highlander decks tend to be very flexible.
Just initial thoughts and analysis also will add a star rating in the current meta/card pool
the stars are like this: (like Trumps rating)
5 - meta defining defines a tier 1 deck
4 - is in a tier 1 deck or defines a tier 2 deck
3 - is in a tier 2 deck or tech in tier 1 or defines a tier 3 deck
2- tried a bit then dropped
1- meme/awful.
Neutral:
N'Zoth, the Corruptor- 5 - the meta is not that fast that this card won't see play in a control list, goes very well with sylvanas and there's no way sylvanas doesn't see play.
[Hearthstone Card (sylvannas windrunner) Not Found] -5- this card is insane we all know that it goes very well in hunter currently Nine Lives is a 3 mana mind control with it. apart from that any other slow midrange/control deck would play her.
Ragnaros the Firelord -5- this card was HOF before elementals were a thing in standard currently there is little synergy apart from mage and shaman with only a few cards that don't see play, but in mage it's really good with [Hearthstone Card (elemental invocation) Not Found], the card can also just be slapped into a variety of decks anyway.
The Curator -3- dragons are kinda dead in standard, beasts are everywhere and there is not really a generalist murloc you would want to draw, seems situational maybe in a sort of a lackey shaman with amalgam just to draw 3..?
Emperor Thaurissan -5- key card in any combo deck and enables them, there's no way no new combo deck we didn't think about shows up.
Druid:
Astral Communion -1- was bad, and is still bad.
Kun the Forgotten King -2- maybe tried in quest druid the card is good but currently doesn't do any crazy combo without Aviana and a 0 mana 7/7 that is a dead card until turn 10 is kind of meh.
Hunter:
Lock and Load -2- spell heavy hunters value engine, but are random hunter cards for 2 mana good enough.. nah I don't think so I used this card in solo adventures from rime to time wasn't impressed by it too much (by that I mean.. best case scenario it's not that great.)
Call of the Wild -4- highlander hunter is very strong and you slot it in for a more impactful zuljin it's a really good card and game closer, think it might be run in the deck cause of mainly zuljin and it's a good card just that when it got nerfed the meta was really fast and then death knights came around, so this card got quite left behind also go outclassed by To My Side! in spell hunter.
Mage:
Babbling Book- 3 - was a decent card but nothing really there are some really bad mage cards it's a 1/1+ that bad classic card, was briefly played in the past.
Flamewaker -5- now THIS is something mage needed, now more than ever with so many cheap spells/spell generation this card is as insane as ever tempo mage is back!
Paladin:
Mysterious Challenger -3- who am I? none of your business. this + the best paladin secret in the game makes secret paladin which got a ton of support in ROS a real contender this is kind of the late game the secret paladin needs.. it currently runs out of gas and that's it.. but MC makes the deck shine again that being said I think secret paladin is either a tier 3 or 2 deck cause of the power creep in the game
Avenge -4- this is the best paladin secret in the game it's worth including even in murloc decks I think so even if "Secret paladin" is not a thing this card might see play in the more aggressive paladin decks. Edit: facepalm on the murloc paladin -> Prismatic Lens as @PopeNeia pointed out.
Shaman:
Evolve -5- slotted into quest shaman instead of mutate or in addition to mutate also good in aggro shaman.
Thing from Below-4- not as good as when it was in standard cause of no totem golem, 2 mana flametongue totem, and no taskarr totemic, but it's still a really good card and great evolve target.
Rogue:
Shaku, the Collector-?-
[Hearthstone Card (swashburglar-) Not Found]?- dunno how to evaluate thief rogue + 3 more thief cards don't think it will make the class suddenly great I am not sure how rogue does atm, but I didn't see them a lot lately. it does make the turn 2 underbelly more consistent.
Priest:
Lightbomb-5- res priest might make a return and this card just makes the deck much much better it's aoe they need to work currently they need either a 2 of in mass hysteria or to wait until turn 9.. this card just makes priest good again think res prist will be tier 1 with sylvanas being back.
Vol'jin-2- the card is decent, but I think it doesn't fit well into the current decks.
Warlock:
Imp Gang Boss -4- zoo is tier 2 and one really good 3 drop won't change it.
Renounce Darkness-1- meme
Warrior:
Varian Wrynn-2- there are some big warrior cards in boomsday, I think such deck is too greedy though.
Bloodhoof Brave -2- card is good, but it's not constructed good.
Edit: forgot hunter lol
Opposing Zephyr's can discover one
Did the same in paladin, I think it's better since you can't mill yourself with time outs.
definitely not by drawing cause I made a draw heavy deck and got around 7 copies of a card.
don't think this deck can be countered:
I mean you are immune almost every turn and keep playing zephrys what can stop this deck?
Playing hs since 2014 regularly, I am 0 likely to recommend it to anyone why? Cause it's so expensive.
The economy is the same since beta yet there are about 30 times more cards in the game, sure you could keep with standard but MEH it feels like you either grind daily quests or arena or you stay out.
Speaking about arena, I like the mode but the rewards for it feel bad yes I get a net profit after 4 wins but the rewards seem lacking and again, not updated since beta...
There need to be more rewards, or better you know what you could make oppenning single packs less miserable decrease the chance for a 40 dust pack by a lot, make epics more commons.
Epics are the most expensive cards in hs not legendaries since most of the time you need more of them and they are about 1/4 as rare as a legendary and yet you find so few of them.. Also you can get duplicates of them.
Played gwent before, don't see why couldn't they implement the discover the rarest card option that's a good way to feel good about opening packs.. Or maybe increase pack sizes from 5 to 6 or dust value of common from 5 to 10.
If gwent was half as fun as hs mechanically it would be more popular but sadly it's just not as fun and simplistic.
Also people have been asking for achievements and progress forever... All they did was and achievement for 500 and 1000 wins that's nice but not enough..
Would suggest using the class level system for more rewards it's kind of a pointless system past level 10 make it drop rewards every few levels and remove cap just like in over watch.
Also class specific packs are something blizzard should look into it would make mining a class much easier as well as give easier access to new players..
The portraits look terrible though.
Just wondering the implications of this, [Hearthstone Card (karthut defender) Not Found] is one of the most synergistic cards ever with N'zoth sure in wild it's not a thing cause wild have much better comboes.
I am not that great of a deck builder any crazy decks you can make with N'zoth in standard?
My first instinct is quest warlock since the deck runs a lot of deathrattle taunts and N'zoth would ressurect them all to make a really strong swing turn.
sure there are 21 other cards we don't know about but let's theoricraft a bit before the 4th of october.
Tavern brawl yes, permanent mode no. Would say 40 cards decks it would be more interesting.
Before I started to use hearthpwn my main lurking forum was serebii, nobody there ever capitalized the M in Pokémon, that's mainly cause it's a main streamed word and there is no need to.
Except keleseth you can actually use the list from rastakan's rumble and add a few new cards, you are using slow heals and hellfire, you should not run such cards in zoo they are too slow. Definetly add life drinker, doom guards, power overwhelming..
Use a heal package you don't have to go all on on heals, use the remaining slots for other packages: demons/lackeys/eggs/self damage/discard.
People have been asking for such format for a long while "pauper mode" turns out it's 99% aggro.
It would revent via the enchantment keep/unkeep rules there is a problem with prelete/undertakah with taurrisan/prismatic lens that would permanently reduce they cost (cause my suggestion is to make reduced cost an enchantment) but that's fine I guess it's much more complicated to do..
Blizzard should fix this as a mechanic, if you paid a certain mana cost for something it should keep the mana cost you paid for on board this would solve CC and any other future problem..