Oh Geist is the Number one Druid killer.. unfortunately I kinda need those Smuggler's Crate
So.. One crate is enough, the standard combo uses king krush which are 8 damage each with all the doubling the deck reaches about 56 damage, so if you cast emeriss once after a crate you have that, you could burn your other crate.
Tortoise is terrible in warlock, play crystallize instead.
Desert hare is just bad as well yes it's a beast but not worth, you want mana cheap cards to play with history buff, would remove tortoise, desert hare, spirit of the bat 1 spirit bomb
And add: another Vulture, 2 crystallizes, zilliax+ SN1P SN4P, 2 beaming sidekick, probably also - 2 helpless hatchling for dark deals or mecharoo as well.
In conclusion even if it's mostly for memes don't run bad cards, and do run good cards.
If Zayle is any indication, it's likely that they will just continue printing new Whizbang-style cards every so often.
It's a much more efficient way to achieve the same result.
Efficient is not a way I would describe such action.. It's by no means efficient if anything it's clunky what they should have done is to give every single new player whiz bang after a milestone "have all classes at level 20" or something similar, make the card part of a reward set which should be reintroduced idk why they removed the whole set( I know why they wanted to remove murkeye though).
And that's a really good move, you have a card that new players can experiment with once they got to know the classes and removed the need to print a card every year with the same effect.
The current owners of whizbang will get 1600 dust or 3200 once they complete said quests I would say a golden whizbang is given to players with all classes at level 60.
I mean that's the logical solution, but I know blizzard will not do that and will create a new one every year/2 years..
it's a bad card. owl is just better. one extra mana is worth the flexibility even in aggro decks. freeze is super popular so not being able to silence your own minions out of a freeze is a flaw. you also can't silence buffed minions in aggro mirrors or value minions against control. There are better ways to kill zilliax than this thing. yeah, the card is good in the dream scenario where you have exact lethal with this because it's 2 mana, but there are normal games that will happen all the time where this is a dead card or a 2 mana 2/1 where you lose tempo and lower your chance of winning that game. If it was a good card, people would play it.
If you want cheaper than owl, you're better off with earth shock or the poison murloc.. you aren't really interested in paying an extra mana for a 0 synergy 2/1.
do you think them is worth inclusion in zoo/aggro warrior/murloc pally?
I think you're playing in a very different meta than I am.
Aggro warrior is a very real deck. not tier 1 or super popular but it's legit. someone won a masters qualifier with it the other day.
The freeze silence is very convincing tbh being able to unfreeze a minion or silence a doomsayer could be a game winner, will try the shieldbreaker for a bit more if them doesn't seem to be the right tech then I will consider a spellbreaker instead I know the current list doesn't run silence but the deck isn't in it's final form and taunt is my main obstacle will see anyway btw...
Aggro warrior is engrage/rush variant of warrior it's a tier 2 deck according to HS replay started playing that deck and it's the most fun variant of warrior as much as I am concerned.
I'm curious as to how you linked Shieldbreaker's card tag correctly, and made an entire topic about the card, without realizing that Shieldbreaker is female.
because why run a 2-mana silence that only hits some minions versus a 3-mana version that hits all.
There is no taunt worth silencing on curve at 2-mana.
Mana cost is really only relevant when it comes to tempo and with silence you usually don't use it for tempo but rather for a final push or to eliminate an enemy threat, both cases are usually not reliant on a specific mana cost unless you want to combo them with something particularly expensive
Ironbeak Owl was played in every single aggro deck to silence taunts at 2 mana I think owl would still be played as it was before why you guys now claim the mana cost of a silence card is irrelevant in an aggro deck? It doesn't work against edwin, or magnetic none taunt minions, but rogue is not a hard matchup for aggro decks.
a 2/1 for 2 is as understatted as a 4/3 for 4 it's 1 mana lower stat line you pay 1 for silence and 1 for the body.
About the last line I play mostly decks that rely on tempo the mana cost is relevant, with owl you can't Leeroy Jenkins + Inner Rage + Bloodsworn Mercenary as well as a similar combo with Grommash Hellscream the mana cost is relevant in said deck, and taunt is a huge speed bump or straight loss if played late game and you are holding those pieces. as well as the option to do other such finisher earlier.
for reference: Shieldbreaker most people's opinion about the card back in rastakan that the card is great, but aggro plays Prince Keleseth.
them is essentially old owl in the current meta most minions you want to silence are taunts, and warrior now runs the taunt package which means their taunts are buffed also every deck runs Zilliax.
do you think them is worth inclusion in zoo/aggro warrior/murloc pally?
you can play a lot of decks just you really need Zilliax(which you REALLY should craft no matter what) and SN1P-SN4P(which you got for free in june).
I built to my friend who quit for a few months 3-4 decks with just those 2 as legendaries the decks looked good actually, token druid and mech hunter both just use those 2 cards and the rest of the deck is just commons and rares in both cases.
you can not run them BTW your deck will just be worse but I really reccomend just running those 2 cards in any deck you create.
murloc shaman can be played without [Hearthstone Card (scargill) Not Found] and you got yourself a top tier 2 deck without legendaries the current list doesn't even run Zilliax/SN1P-SN4P..
Other options you could find is murloc paladin, you drop the highlander stuff and nomi all you need is 4 epics and a bunch of murlocs, the powerful stuff is the Tip the Scales nomi and the highlander legendaries are against control mainly, and findley is 80% of the time a 2/3 murloc for 2.
Other options that I could suggest are overload shaman, which uses Vessina, the card is great but you can just.. not run her and have the pre expansion version, which is very good.
another staple that I really recommend crafting if you don't have him is Leeroy Jenkins he is a very strong finisher in many combo/aggro decks he appears in a lot of decks that aren't expensive.
you could pull off the same thing with Stormwind Knight since classic and it's never really a combo people play in their deck not even with Shadow Visions
so.. yeah that combo is just MEH it's a combo but it's just too much set up for little consistency.
I really like rush/enrage warrior it's such a fun deck I always like midrange/aggressive warrior decks(except pirate warrior) really like that deck so far it's my favorite.
I only disenchant extra copies/Goldens of bad cards, never pressing the mass disenchant button cause suddenly blizzard can make commons disenchant for 10 one day or something
I watched the vid before seeing this post. (Still happy to see someone mention it) It was very educational and helped me at least understand some of the mechanics better. Zephrys the Great might be one of the more/most skill taking cards, as you need to manipulate him into giving you the card your looking for, or you need to understand the combo Zephrys tries to give you, as Zephrys often actually outsmarts the player by giving stuff they didn't even think about. Such a cool card and definatly my favorite card in the game so far! Altho when i play zephrys the perfect card is most often Tirion Fordring
Tirion is a big value card it's the best one in classic for sure, paladin decks in early hs always ran him and he was always a bomb to play and game winning so yeah if you are low on deck size he will offer you Tirion.
Another perspective of quest druid is that 90% of the players complete the quest ASAP without actually trying to remove stuff if it delays their quest, people are not used to play quest druid, the deck might be just MEH but at the same time it's build + gameplay not just build for that deck specifically since it's the only quest that requires a lot of choices during it's completion.. do I waste coin to complete the quest? is this board going to snowball?
Completing the quest 2-3 turns later but not dying to aggro might be a better approach to it, and most players I played against just complete the quest and immediately die..
I predict quest druid will be tier 3 but good players will have their 55% win rate with the right build so the deck might have higher win rate in legend after a few weeks.
So.. One crate is enough, the standard combo uses king krush which are 8 damage each with all the doubling the deck reaches about 56 damage, so if you cast emeriss once after a crate you have that, you could burn your other crate.
So.. What's the OTK?
Loses to any deck with more than 2 board clears as well.
Are you really salty about quest druid, paladin and shaman? The warrior nerf is too much as well.
Tortoise is terrible in warlock, play crystallize instead.
Desert hare is just bad as well yes it's a beast but not worth, you want mana cheap cards to play with history buff, would remove tortoise, desert hare, spirit of the bat 1 spirit bomb
And add: another Vulture, 2 crystallizes, zilliax+ SN1P SN4P, 2 beaming sidekick, probably also - 2 helpless hatchling for dark deals or mecharoo as well.
In conclusion even if it's mostly for memes don't run bad cards, and do run good cards.
The amount of 1 drops is too low for zoo btw.
Efficient is not a way I would describe such action.. It's by no means efficient if anything it's clunky what they should have done is to give every single new player whiz bang after a milestone "have all classes at level 20" or something similar, make the card part of a reward set which should be reintroduced idk why they removed the whole set( I know why they wanted to remove murkeye though).
And that's a really good move, you have a card that new players can experiment with once they got to know the classes and removed the need to print a card every year with the same effect.
The current owners of whizbang will get 1600 dust or 3200 once they complete said quests I would say a golden whizbang is given to players with all classes at level 60.
I mean that's the logical solution, but I know blizzard will not do that and will create a new one every year/2 years..
The freeze silence is very convincing tbh being able to unfreeze a minion or silence a doomsayer could be a game winner, will try the shieldbreaker for a bit more if them doesn't seem to be the right tech then I will consider a spellbreaker instead I know the current list doesn't run silence but the deck isn't in it's final form and taunt is my main obstacle will see anyway btw...
Aggro warrior is engrage/rush variant of warrior it's a tier 2 deck according to HS replay started playing that deck and it's the most fun variant of warrior as much as I am concerned.
Fixed for you.
Ironbeak Owl was played in every single aggro deck to silence taunts at 2 mana I think owl would still be played as it was before why you guys now claim the mana cost of a silence card is irrelevant in an aggro deck? It doesn't work against edwin, or magnetic none taunt minions, but rogue is not a hard matchup for aggro decks.
a 2/1 for 2 is as understatted as a 4/3 for 4 it's 1 mana lower stat line you pay 1 for silence and 1 for the body.
About the last line I play mostly decks that rely on tempo the mana cost is relevant, with owl you can't Leeroy Jenkins + Inner Rage + Bloodsworn Mercenary as well as a similar combo with Grommash Hellscream the mana cost is relevant in said deck, and taunt is a huge speed bump or straight loss if played late game and you are holding those pieces. as well as the option to do other such finisher earlier.
for reference: Shieldbreaker most people's opinion about the card back in rastakan that the card is great, but aggro plays Prince Keleseth.
them is essentially old owl in the current meta most minions you want to silence are taunts, and warrior now runs the taunt package which means their taunts are buffed also every deck runs Zilliax.
do you think them is worth inclusion in zoo/aggro warrior/murloc pally?
you can play a lot of decks just you really need Zilliax(which you REALLY should craft no matter what) and SN1P-SN4P(which you got for free in june).
I built to my friend who quit for a few months 3-4 decks with just those 2 as legendaries the decks looked good actually, token druid and mech hunter both just use those 2 cards and the rest of the deck is just commons and rares in both cases.
you can not run them BTW your deck will just be worse but I really reccomend just running those 2 cards in any deck you create.
murloc shaman can be played without [Hearthstone Card (scargill) Not Found] and you got yourself a top tier 2 deck without legendaries the current list doesn't even run Zilliax/SN1P-SN4P..
Other options you could find is murloc paladin, you drop the highlander stuff and nomi all you need is 4 epics and a bunch of murlocs, the powerful stuff is the Tip the Scales nomi and the highlander legendaries are against control mainly, and findley is 80% of the time a 2/3 murloc for 2.
Other options that I could suggest are overload shaman, which uses Vessina, the card is great but you can just.. not run her and have the pre expansion version, which is very good.
another staple that I really recommend crafting if you don't have him is Leeroy Jenkins he is a very strong finisher in many combo/aggro decks he appears in a lot of decks that aren't expensive.
BTW what was your free quest?
It's hearthstone... So it's random
you could pull off the same thing with Stormwind Knight since classic and it's never really a combo people play in their deck not even with Shadow Visions
so.. yeah that combo is just MEH it's a combo but it's just too much set up for little consistency.
I really like rush/enrage warrior it's such a fun deck I always like midrange/aggressive warrior decks(except pirate warrior) really like that deck so far it's my favorite.
I only disenchant extra copies/Goldens of bad cards, never pressing the mass disenchant button cause suddenly blizzard can make commons disenchant for 10 one day or something
Tirion is a big value card it's the best one in classic for sure, paladin decks in early hs always ran him and he was always a bomb to play and game winning so yeah if you are low on deck size he will offer you Tirion.
Watched the video.. Tbh he didn't say anything new I knew my outs anyway.
League of explorers are part of hearthstone that later got added to WOW right?
Another perspective of quest druid is that 90% of the players complete the quest ASAP without actually trying to remove stuff if it delays their quest, people are not used to play quest druid, the deck might be just MEH but at the same time it's build + gameplay not just build for that deck specifically since it's the only quest that requires a lot of choices during it's completion.. do I waste coin to complete the quest? is this board going to snowball?
Completing the quest 2-3 turns later but not dying to aggro might be a better approach to it, and most players I played against just complete the quest and immediately die..
I predict quest druid will be tier 3 but good players will have their 55% win rate with the right build so the deck might have higher win rate in legend after a few weeks.
Then just switch vereesa with siamat same mana slot, another target for sandbinder..