My favorite moment is getting the druid quest as my free quest was so excited to try it, but then.. Realized I am missing 3clegendaries for the deck :(
My point is not that archivist elesyana fits into the archtype but that if you want to prolong a game, you can already do that with that card instead of putting so much effort into shuffling cards with little gain.
And I don't think lake seer is any good either the support cards are underpowered and the reward is not that big I would fix it using the following buffs:
WindShear Mystic: costs 6 and the tokens have "battlecry: draw a minion"(to avoid overdrawing too much with Shudderwock), tokens are 3 mana though to make them harder to play. Stone Sentinel was a fair card which is probably better than this one and nobody played that card so yeah...
Elemental vortex: no overload and costs 0 or add "draw a card" to it. 1 mana AND overload for doing nothing?
Lake seer: 3/4 statline.
The frog token: 5/5 at least
Vas'no: costs 6 the effect is too narrow, and only works with those cards
you want to win the game the cards need to be able to cheat tempo with how slow they are..
so 1 legendary and 1 card back are worth 5 euro? I will buy it but after release I don't think a legendary is worth 5 euro and I got 0 respect for card backs. The adventure does seem to be worth it
Those cards seem severely underpowered almost freeze shaman level of underpowered you are putting in a lot of efford and mana for little rewards it's a fact most games don't come to fatigue and there is already one card that does the anti fatigue in shaman much better in [Hearthstone Card (archivist elesyanna) Not Found] who already extends the game to the 50 turn limit so shuffling extra cards specially discovered spells and 2/3 taunts and an ok minion that could be played standalone (talking about the frog) are just not worth it, also shuffling cards into ones deck is extreamly overrated in my opinion such cards rarely see play.
The exception is archivist elesyanna cause it shuffles 10 cards and bomb warrior cause it has the tools to make the game long enough for it to matter within the same game plan.
People complain about rng.. And then people design those custom cards, the rng on those are just awful it's a coin flip of win/lose the game with no control over it.
Actually this Cho'gall isn't bad at all, if played in a Zoodeck as 5-Mana Deathwing, but with a bit of RNG u fill your hand as well. The rest, esp the mage one is garbage.
Thought of this, still feelsbad to play against, 5 mana reset the board and refill your hand 50% of the time as an aggro deck.. great design.
The only way to save such design is if the effects have the same purpose and close in power level, like the brawl guy he is close to a good balance since both are board clears so you are fine with either one but both are good in the same situation (that being said warrior DOES NOT need another board clear).
Randomly cast [Hearthstone Card (scroll of wonders) Not Found] or Cabalist's Tome would be better since both create random spells
Are you certain of your statement bolded above? Because I'm pretty sure I saw this golden Dragon since May 2015, that's when I started this game. Maybe, the reason why you stated as such must be the fact that you started Hearthstone late. Also...
How come did I find these decks, one from a community member and one from Kibler, if Dragon Consort didn't spawn any deck? Up until now, I thought that you accused me of spreading misinformation without researching but...
the reason why dragon paladin is never good is because blizzard prints 2 dragon paladin cards per year that are rarely ever good.
This proves otherwise, so I'm not sure how to judge you. I look forward to hear a response from you, explaining your accusation of "spreading misinformation" in full detail, as if you are writing "The Forgotten Wilds" series for this card-only.
I am playing since 2014, I never saw a dragon paladin above tier 4 it was always inferior to any other dragon deck,
the fact that people can make decks via searching "dragon" and adding all cards (as in the featured deck btw) doesn't mean the deck is anywhere near good, the maker of the featured deck claimed it's a "just for fun" rank 20~15 deck.
I am talking about a viable deck that has a niche btw not the option to actually play a deck cause I can play murloc priest for some reason but is it good? nah, why not play dragon rogue while you are at the argument people can make decks of anything and it's an argument.
Brian Kibler almost never play good decks he plays thief rogue, quest warlock, dragon paladin all sub 50% win rate deck but he is an exceptional player so he does well with any deck.
the misinformation here is that in may 2015 dragon paladin was a thing, it was tried but quickly thrown away and paladin returned to playing their GVG deck until secret paladin came out in august 2015, and then dragon consort wasn't even a consideration.
I wish dragon paladin was ever good but it wasn't I am 100% certain of this cause I really wanted the deck to be good but it never was and won't be until blizzard actually releases actually good dragon paladin cards, that are not decent arena cards. looking back at the dragon paladin card (just search dragon in the deck builder) I am so underwhelmed by them why do they make them so underpowered? why do they release them so far apart?
Seems like a "search dragon and add everything" deck to me, too fair are you playing vs people who are afk or something?
There are a lot of cards that are proven to be too slow or just MEH, dragon priest is just 1000 times better than dragon paladin
Also you are playing only 5 class cards:
Dragon speaker: lol hand buffs
Bronze herald: too slow, bad stats for cost.
Nightbane Templar: OK arena card
Cathedral gargoyle: minibot is better
Dragon consort: "3 mana 5/5" still too fair.
Feel sorry for people who crafted this deck there is just no reason to play dragon paladin over any other dragon deck or any other Paladin deck.
Edit: I didn't read the opening I missed it, yeah the deck is fine till rank 15 or so.. if I were to build a dragon paladin (for some reason I can't find a reason to play this over dragon warrior or priest) I would remove half of the cards here and add paladin proven stamples.
Dragon paladin was NEVER played don't spread misinformation, dragon consort didn't spawn any deck, the reason why dragon paladin is never good is because blizzard prints 2 dragon paladin cards per year that are rarely ever good.
People complain about rng.. And then people design those custom cards, the rng on those are just awful it's a coin flip of win/lose the game with no control over it.
Never disenchant legendaries. Especially classics.
And these legendaries are pretty good.
why should i not disenchant legendaries.
i won't disenchant these legendaries because you guys say they are good but what if i get bad legendaries
Because there is a "no duplicate" legendary rule, you can't open a legendary you already own, also classic set is always around and cards get good or bad sometimes depending on meta.
Do you really want this guy to spawn from random effects? I am afraid every time I generate a random 4 drop/legendary already..
Well, why not?
The 4-mana thing is already in place.
And there are already tons of Elementals or Demons that are nearly unplayable when randomly generated (without synergy), so that's an extremely limited downside. Not much worse than the current situation. And not so much of a downside at all when playing against a Renodeck.
But the rebranding could make those cards viable in some lists, and that's a great upside.
Because it's the worst card that you can get randomly generated on board I am not only talking about current cards but there could be a card that generates a 4 cost elemental or a random elemental (such card won't see play but arena exists) and it's such a feels bad card.
The card is bad, even when Raza priest was everywhere this card saw 0 play even then it's just not a good card.
the karazhan one was a masterpiece, it's hard for him to surpass that one, this one is ok.. the deck the mage plays makes no sense though the cards she palys in her deck and in general guess it's mostly for the specific scenario to happen I guess
So.. Rip the peaceful botless days?
My favorite moment is getting the druid quest as my free quest was so excited to try it, but then.. Realized I am missing 3clegendaries for the deck :(
My point is not that archivist elesyana fits into the archtype but that if you want to prolong a game, you can already do that with that card instead of putting so much effort into shuffling cards with little gain.
And I don't think lake seer is any good either the support cards are underpowered and the reward is not that big I would fix it using the following buffs:
WindShear Mystic: costs 6 and the tokens have "battlecry: draw a minion"(to avoid overdrawing too much with Shudderwock), tokens are 3 mana though to make them harder to play. Stone Sentinel was a fair card which is probably better than this one and nobody played that card so yeah...
Elemental vortex: no overload and costs 0 or add "draw a card" to it. 1 mana AND overload for doing nothing?
Lake seer: 3/4 statline.
The frog token: 5/5 at least
Vas'no: costs 6 the effect is too narrow, and only works with those cards
you want to win the game the cards need to be able to cheat tempo with how slow they are..
I used zayle a total of 0 times since I got him.
so 1 legendary and 1 card back are worth 5 euro? I will buy it but after release I don't think a legendary is worth 5 euro and I got 0 respect for card backs. The adventure does seem to be worth it
Those cards seem severely underpowered almost freeze shaman level of underpowered you are putting in a lot of efford and mana for little rewards it's a fact most games don't come to fatigue and there is already one card that does the anti fatigue in shaman much better in [Hearthstone Card (archivist elesyanna) Not Found] who already extends the game to the 50 turn limit so shuffling extra cards specially discovered spells and 2/3 taunts and an ok minion that could be played standalone (talking about the frog) are just not worth it, also shuffling cards into ones deck is extreamly overrated in my opinion such cards rarely see play.
The exception is archivist elesyanna cause it shuffles 10 cards and bomb warrior cause it has the tools to make the game long enough for it to matter within the same game plan.
Thought of this, still feelsbad to play against, 5 mana reset the board and refill your hand 50% of the time as an aggro deck.. great design.
The only way to save such design is if the effects have the same purpose and close in power level, like the brawl guy he is close to a good balance since both are board clears so you are fine with either one but both are good in the same situation (that being said warrior DOES NOT need another board clear).
Randomly cast [Hearthstone Card (scroll of wonders) Not Found] or Cabalist's Tome would be better since both create random spells
I am playing since 2014, I never saw a dragon paladin above tier 4 it was always inferior to any other dragon deck,
the fact that people can make decks via searching "dragon" and adding all cards (as in the featured deck btw) doesn't mean the deck is anywhere near good, the maker of the featured deck claimed it's a "just for fun" rank 20~15 deck.
I am talking about a viable deck that has a niche btw not the option to actually play a deck cause I can play murloc priest for some reason but is it good? nah, why not play dragon rogue while you are at the argument people can make decks of anything and it's an argument.
Brian Kibler almost never play good decks he plays thief rogue, quest warlock, dragon paladin all sub 50% win rate deck but he is an exceptional player so he does well with any deck.
the misinformation here is that in may 2015 dragon paladin was a thing, it was tried but quickly thrown away and paladin returned to playing their GVG deck until secret paladin came out in august 2015, and then dragon consort wasn't even a consideration.
I wish dragon paladin was ever good but it wasn't I am 100% certain of this cause I really wanted the deck to be good but it never was and won't be until blizzard actually releases actually good dragon paladin cards, that are not decent arena cards. looking back at the dragon paladin card (just search dragon in the deck builder) I am so underwhelmed by them why do they make them so underpowered? why do they release them so far apart?
Seems like a "search dragon and add everything" deck to me, too fair are you playing vs people who are afk or something?
There are a lot of cards that are proven to be too slow or just MEH, dragon priest is just 1000 times better than dragon paladin
Also you are playing only 5 class cards:
Dragon speaker: lol hand buffs
Bronze herald: too slow, bad stats for cost.
Nightbane Templar: OK arena card
Cathedral gargoyle: minibot is better
Dragon consort: "3 mana 5/5" still too fair.
Feel sorry for people who crafted this deck there is just no reason to play dragon paladin over any other dragon deck or any other Paladin deck.
Edit: I didn't read the opening I missed it, yeah the deck is fine till rank 15 or so.. if I were to build a dragon paladin (for some reason I can't find a reason to play this over dragon warrior or priest) I would remove half of the cards here and add paladin proven stamples.
Dragon paladin was NEVER played don't spread misinformation, dragon consort didn't spawn any deck, the reason why dragon paladin is never good is because blizzard prints 2 dragon paladin cards per year that are rarely ever good.
People complain about rng.. And then people design those custom cards, the rng on those are just awful it's a coin flip of win/lose the game with no control over it.
Because there is a "no duplicate" legendary rule, you can't open a legendary you already own, also classic set is always around and cards get good or bad sometimes depending on meta.
If you expect serious story lines you are in for a disappointment, even back in naxx the storyline was goofy and funny so, don't illusion yourself.
Because it's the worst card that you can get randomly generated on board I am not only talking about current cards but there could be a card that generates a 4 cost elemental or a random elemental (such card won't see play but arena exists) and it's such a feels bad card.
The card is bad, even when Raza priest was everywhere this card saw 0 play even then it's just not a good card.
Do you really want this guy to spawn from random effects? I am afraid every time I generate a random 4 drop/legendary already..
One of their weaker videos..
the karazhan one was a masterpiece, it's hard for him to surpass that one, this one is ok.. the deck the mage plays makes no sense though the cards she palys in her deck and in general guess it's mostly for the specific scenario to happen I guess
for lazy people (like me)
What does it do?
What are you guys gonna complain next? Quest warlock? Quest mage? Tempo decks that skip turn 1 are bound to be MEH.
I am sorry your cutesy thief rogue/quest druid/highlander paladin lost to quest shaman really hard 3 times in a row, go to the salt thread instead.
I am thinking about crafting highlander hunter so.. 3 cards- brann subject 9 and siamat.