I really don't get how people are misunderstanding me on this point.
YES, you ABSOLUTELY have the ability to play what/how you want. I am not saying you should be drug out into the street and beaten for doing this, or spawn camping in a FPS, or cheesing out a win in some fighting game. !!!BUT!!! so do I. And when "how you want to play" and "how I want to play" are in direct opposition to one another, the argument that "well you should let people be dicks or concede and give them a free win" sorry doesn't hold water with me.
You are 100% correct that roping doesn't solve any problem, but since Blizzard has shown absolutely 0 interest in addressing this I'm going to do what I think is right/fair. To take your exact argument: if you don't like me roping you for playing Tier 1 in Casual, you're free to concede to me and move on to someone else.
The thing is, they are not playing a tier one deck simply to annoy you, they are doing it for a reason. You are roping them because they are annoying you and you want to annoy them back, this does not seem like a very mature thing, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone. Maybe they are being selfish by farming gold on casual, but at least someone is gaining something from this, whereas you are just being annoying for the sake of being annoying. You are right that it is within your power to rope them if you want to, but just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it.
You just admitted that roping doesn't solve any problem, all you have said to justify roping them is that you think it is right/fair. It is not right to ruin someones day just because they ruined yours, and maybe it is 'fair' to hit someone back when they hit you, but it isn't nice, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone.
Let's remember that we're talking about a free video game played for entertainment purposes. There's no "reason" behind anything here and no one is "gaining" anything - it's not a job & it fundamentally doesn't matter at all what happens.
Also: ."..just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it". And once again we return to the exact same circular argument. Just because they have the freedom to play tier 1 metadecks in Casual doesn't justify them doing it if it actively ruins someone else's good time. I accept that I'm being a dick to them by roping them; why is it so damn hard for them to accept they're being a dick by gold farming (or whatever reason they have).
You are so hypocritical. You are admitting that what you are doing is wrong, and you admit that it doesn't solve any issue, but you still do it.
The only reason you are roping your opponent is because you don't like the deck they are playing, and you think roping them is okay because your opponent thinks playing a tier one deck in casual is okay. But my point still stands, they are playing a T-1 deck in casual for some reason that benefits them, you are roping them only because you are salty that you can't win with a T-4 meme deck. Just because your opponent is annoying you doesn't mean you are doing a good thing by annoying them back.
I really don't get how people are misunderstanding me on this point.
YES, you ABSOLUTELY have the ability to play what/how you want. I am not saying you should be drug out into the street and beaten for doing this, or spawn camping in a FPS, or cheesing out a win in some fighting game. !!!BUT!!! so do I. And when "how you want to play" and "how I want to play" are in direct opposition to one another, the argument that "well you should let people be dicks or concede and give them a free win" sorry doesn't hold water with me.
You are 100% correct that roping doesn't solve any problem, but since Blizzard has shown absolutely 0 interest in addressing this I'm going to do what I think is right/fair. To take your exact argument: if you don't like me roping you for playing Tier 1 in Casual, you're free to concede to me and move on to someone else.
The thing is, they are not playing a tier one deck simply to annoy you, they are doing it for a reason. You are roping them because they are annoying you and you want to annoy them back, this does not seem like a very mature thing, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone. Maybe they are being selfish by farming gold on casual, but at least someone is gaining something from this, whereas you are just being annoying for the sake of being annoying. You are right that it is within your power to rope them if you want to, but just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it.
You just admitted that roping doesn't solve any problem, all you have said to justify roping them is that you think it is right/fair. It is not right to ruin someones day just because they ruined yours, and maybe it is 'fair' to hit someone back when they hit you, but it isn't nice, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone.
1) If I get roped first, almost always on Turn 1 - that tends to get people to knock it off.
2) If I'm playing in Casual and come up against someone playing Tier 1 netdecks to gold farm those of us playing memes (as just happened with 6 Secret Highlander Paladins in a row this morning). As soon as I see what you are I rope every. single. turn. You want that easy win? Sure, but I'm going to suck up as much of your time as I possibly can. The more time you're stuck with me, the less time you can bother other people and I can just as easily read the news while I wait for my timer to burn down each turn.
Fundamentally, my philosophy is the same as that of 2nd century Chinese warrior-sage Zhuge Liang: "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck (Hey!) Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit!" Truly a wise, wise man.
Might just be me, but wasting other people’s time because they’re playing a deck you don’t like doesn’t seem heroic or considerate. It’s just being a dick
Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty.
No it isn’t. Playing Casual doesn’t mean you have the right to punish the opponent for playing a deck that is unfun to you.
That's some fairly contradictory logic their friendo.
If YOU have the right to be a dick and play tier 1 decks to goldfarm those of us trying to meme it up (which you do - the game obviously doesn't stop you), then I have the right to ALSO be a dick and rope you for it (which I do - the game obviously doesn't stop me).
Fundamentally it's not about "unfun" - I personally don't find hyper aggro decks "fun" to play against, but I would NOT rope you for playing aggro Warrior or Zoolock since they're lower tier 2/upper tier 3 decks - the exact kind of deck CASUAL should be for. If you want to play Tier 1 decks, more power to you but stop being a little bitch and go play them on the ladder where they belong rather than wasting my time trying to farm gold off me and my garbage-tier meme decks.
I get it - you like to gold farm and want to self-justify why you're not as asshole. Go off then my dude, but recognize that other people disagree with you, and since the game only gives me one way to communicate that I think what you're doing hurts the overall game state (roping), you can bet I'm going to continue to do it.
Just because someone is annoying you doesn't give you the right to annoy them back. Two wrongs don't make a right. Revenge doesn't make people happy. Love your enemies. How is it that half the people on this thread don't get that?
Also, playing tier one decks on casual isn't a crime. Maybe you haven't considered this, but some people enjoy playing tier one decks not because they are super competitive and only care about winning, but because they think the deck is fun to play. People are allowed to play whatever they want in whatever way they want. And if that bothers you so much, then you can either suck it up and just play against them, or, if you really don't want to fight against a deck simply because its good, then you can concede and move on to the next match. It is not for you to decide what your opponent is allowed to have fun playing, and roping them doesn't help solve the problem.
First of all thank you OP for the thread. I am afraid Outof.cards is more dead than alive regarding to little response on the forums.
as much as I hate to admit it. I agree that the activity on this site is plummeting. Sometimes one of the threads on the 'recent threads' section will go over a day without getting a post, and there are plenty of threads that don't get responded to at all. Also, most decks on the front page don't get more than a total score of 5, and they usually don't get more than 600 or so views. I hope this site gets bigger when other games start getting more support on the site.
KANSASOld God Fanatic 17452912 PostsJoined 03/25/2019
Posted 5 years, 1 month ago
I just logged in and got a message saying that the hallow's end event will leave in 3 days, I imagine that it will end when the next tavern brawl gets here.
Don't forget that if you have an un-finished arena run when the event ends, you will get all the rewards for that run plus another free run.
KANSASOld God Fanatic 17452912 PostsJoined 03/25/2019
Posted 5 years, 1 month ago
In MTG, there is a format (I don't remember what it is called) where you are able to play every card ever printed in Magic. Nothing is banned, but there are some restricted cards (you can only have 1 copy in oppose to 4). Usually, games are decided during the mulligan. There are so many combos that can win you the game on turn 1-3, and there are a ton of broken synergies and infinite combos. This is the result of 26 years worth of cards, and the player gets to chose the 36 best cards ever printed, add 24 lands, and still lose because his turn 5 infinite combo was too slow.
This is just where all eternal formats are bound to end up sooner or later and there really isn't anything you can do about it. I think Hearthstone does have some time to go before it ends up like this, but it is getting there.
well that is a relief. I really want to play some weird super lategame greedy/value/comboish deck with this guy.
Hooray! My favorite tribe for my favorite class!
Is it possible to get this card if we didn't buy a ticket? This card looks pretty cool but I don't want to spend 50$ on it.
'people disagreed with me, so they must be self-entitled ignorant little snowflakes'
Or, maybe they just disagree with you because you have a different opinion.
Welcome back!
Before crafting anything, keep in mind that about a month a new set will launch (Everything You Need to Know About Descent of Dragons - BlizzCon Reveal - Top Hearthstone Decks, News, Community - Out of Cards) so it is probably a good idea to save your dust. I wouldn't invest in a top-tier meta deck just yet, it is a good idea to wait and open some packs first before crafting a deck. Quest shaman is probably a good deck to play in the mean time because you only need to craft one legendary for it, Corrupt the Waters and you already have vessina.
Here are a couple of shaman lists that include Vessina.
Hearthstone Shaman Decks - Top Hearthstone Decks, News, Community - Out of Cards
Hearthstone Decks - HSReplay.net
I don't even understand a little bit what you are talking about.
No one will care if you are wearing a red shirt or not.
You are so hypocritical. You are admitting that what you are doing is wrong, and you admit that it doesn't solve any issue, but you still do it.
The only reason you are roping your opponent is because you don't like the deck they are playing, and you think roping them is okay because your opponent thinks playing a tier one deck in casual is okay. But my point still stands, they are playing a T-1 deck in casual for some reason that benefits them, you are roping them only because you are salty that you can't win with a T-4 meme deck. Just because your opponent is annoying you doesn't mean you are doing a good thing by annoying them back.
The thing is, they are not playing a tier one deck simply to annoy you, they are doing it for a reason. You are roping them because they are annoying you and you want to annoy them back, this does not seem like a very mature thing, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone. Maybe they are being selfish by farming gold on casual, but at least someone is gaining something from this, whereas you are just being annoying for the sake of being annoying. You are right that it is within your power to rope them if you want to, but just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it.
You just admitted that roping doesn't solve any problem, all you have said to justify roping them is that you think it is right/fair. It is not right to ruin someones day just because they ruined yours, and maybe it is 'fair' to hit someone back when they hit you, but it isn't nice, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone.
Just because someone is annoying you doesn't give you the right to annoy them back. Two wrongs don't make a right. Revenge doesn't make people happy. Love your enemies. How is it that half the people on this thread don't get that?
Also, playing tier one decks on casual isn't a crime. Maybe you haven't considered this, but some people enjoy playing tier one decks not because they are super competitive and only care about winning, but because they think the deck is fun to play. People are allowed to play whatever they want in whatever way they want. And if that bothers you so much, then you can either suck it up and just play against them, or, if you really don't want to fight against a deck simply because its good, then you can concede and move on to the next match. It is not for you to decide what your opponent is allowed to have fun playing, and roping them doesn't help solve the problem.
You didn't make hearthstone a better place. Now two people are angry instead of one. Great job everyone
Its for Doomsayer. You play doomsayer, give it to your opponent, then pass turn and everything dies.
I don't see any combos other than that though, so I don't think Treachery is a very good card to have in the deck.
This
This deck is listed as having a guide even though there isn't a guide but just a period. I think that's cheating.
Battletag: Jarvis#12448
Ragion: NA
Trade only? yes, you go first
I can show proof
Done!
as much as I hate to admit it. I agree that the activity on this site is plummeting. Sometimes one of the threads on the 'recent threads' section will go over a day without getting a post, and there are plenty of threads that don't get responded to at all. Also, most decks on the front page don't get more than a total score of 5, and they usually don't get more than 600 or so views. I hope this site gets bigger when other games start getting more support on the site.
Battletag: Jarvis#12448
Ragion: NA
Trade only? yes, you go first
This is good news. Any improvements are always welcome :)
I just logged in and got a message saying that the hallow's end event will leave in 3 days, I imagine that it will end when the next tavern brawl gets here.
Don't forget that if you have an un-finished arena run when the event ends, you will get all the rewards for that run plus another free run.
Battletag: Jarvis#12448
Ragion: NA
Trade only? yes, you go first
In MTG, there is a format (I don't remember what it is called) where you are able to play every card ever printed in Magic. Nothing is banned, but there are some restricted cards (you can only have 1 copy in oppose to 4). Usually, games are decided during the mulligan. There are so many combos that can win you the game on turn 1-3, and there are a ton of broken synergies and infinite combos. This is the result of 26 years worth of cards, and the player gets to chose the 36 best cards ever printed, add 24 lands, and still lose because his turn 5 infinite combo was too slow.
This is just where all eternal formats are bound to end up sooner or later and there really isn't anything you can do about it. I think Hearthstone does have some time to go before it ends up like this, but it is getting there.