Valdris Felgorge (5/5): The hand size will likely not matter for Arena, but essentially playing Sprint while developing a board? Hell yes!
Abyssal Summoner (3/5): Obviously designed to synergize with the new hand size increase mechanic. Chances are that as WL, you will have cards in your hand most of the game and you need "just" 4 to get decent value. All the new discover effect and Lackey spawners help fill your hand too. This should perform relatively well on average i think.
Flik Skyshiv (5/5): Assassinate on a stick. Literally. Very good value and in arena, it could potentially hit multiple minions. Just be sure you are not sniping your own. The battlecry does not discriminate :)
Sanctuary (2/5): This is a hard card to evaluate. Obviously there are turns in Arena, where you dont take damage. Probably more so than in Constructed and certainly, it can happen early, so playing this on curve or on T3/T4 while having board advantage can help you tons. But it will pretty much never triggers while you're behind, which is abysmal. I dont know, maybe it will become the next Tar Creeper, but until i see it in play, i have my doubts.
Zul'Drak Ritualist (3/5): I want to like this card, it is a pretty huge taunt for the cost, but giving your opponent 3 minions, even if they are 1-drops, can come back to bite you. For the next rotation, there dont seem to be many bad outcomes, worst is probably Injured Kvaldir and Flame Imp, but stuff like Spirit of the Dead, Spirit of the Raptor or Spirit of the Rhino could potentially lose you the game, not even joking. Again, i will have to see this card in play to pass my final judgment, maybe it will win you more games than it loses in the end.
Veranus (5/5): Good stats, dragon tag and a pretty powerful effect that can help you trade up. Obvious combo with Unleash the Hounds, but thats just beginning.
Necrium Apothecary (4/5): Draft dependent, but if it can trigger literally on anything, it is super powerful.
Crazed Netherwing (5/5): Abyssal Enforcer 2.0. Pretty much. What makes things worse, you can discover this. I dont like this exists.
Nether Breath (3/5): Draft dependent. If you can activate it its amazing, if you cant, its still a removal(ish).
Amber Watcher (5/5): Holy crap. Guardian of Kings is crying in a corner. This card is powerful. Great stats, dragon tag and a huge heal.
Camouflaged Dirigible (3/5): Decent 6-drop with a potentially strong effect. It will become stronger in rotations with more mechs, obviously, but its ok even without the battlecry.
Hot Air Balloon (3/5): Not a bad 1-drop. I would probably prefer a flat 1/3 over this, but mech tag might matter and it can keep buffing itself, if left unchecked. Not like a 1-attack minion would be such a threat, but it is going to be annoying and potential buff target.
Congratulations! :) I like BG a lot. Certainly a breath of fresh air in current state of the game. Im looking forward to the new set, but i hope they keep focusing on BG as well. They seem to be so far, hope its not just cause its still in beta and once its fully released, the updates will come much more slowly.
I think the times in this mode are sometimes too short or too long not in between, specially latter turns sometimes you cycle like 10 battle cries in one turn and sometimes you buy 3 units and quickly place them or just tavern up I think I would rather have extra turn time rather than too little though..
Or you know
... Cut the animation time!!! Idk how people even play this on mobile..
Getting those extra seconds early don't matter, but late game they are very valuable.. So maybe if you know you need to do a long turn.. Add a "speed up" button
Agreed, they need to do something about the animations. I believe they already said they would, but dont know if i remember it correctly.
@OP: yes, i believe that if you finish quickly, you are already in the Tavern Phase while someone else might still be in Combat Phase. You can clearly see this by tavern tiern upgrade icons poping up on the sidebar or making a triple minion at other player's portraits. That is also why you sometimes have a very long turn, because you are waiting for someone to finish their combat and only then the timer for Tavern Phase begins imho.
Does it give you more time to snatch some minions over your opponent? Maybe. But i dont think its a problem in the long run. There is a lot of RNG and strategy involved in how and when you get to some specific minions and it is usually more influenced by how quickly can you Tier up than if you can finish match a few seconds earlier.
One thing im not sure about, but i think it does work is, if you freeze minions in your Tavern Phase, that essentially locks them, for you (obviously), but they are also temporarily removed from the Minion Pool for your opponens. At least iv never had it happen to me that i would lock a board and one of those minions was missing the next turn.
I still think the best option would be to concentrate all discussion on a card on its card page. Why? I think in the long run it will benefit the players who searched for the card, so they can see all opinions in one place. People discussing on three different places seems a bit confusing and chaotic to me.
The way it is now, all those discussions one day will be buried in forum and forgotten. It would be fun to see those opinions later when meta is solved. Card page traffic may be low now but it can be boosted with promotion.
We do include the link to the card's discussion thread in its card page. So that should cover what you're asking here, basically. If you want to see what ppl had to say about it on release, you can just click the button and read the thread.
I understand what ur saying, but in the end i guess it is the matter of preference and this is how we approach this. For now anyway.
It is good to raise these questions tho, so we can see that ppl might be interested for us to do certain things differently and we can then take that into consideration going forward ;-)
All good :) That being said, iv had quite a success with Patches as well :) His HP can help you "cheat out" some wins early game allowing you to upgrade Tavern more aggressively.
Plot Twist warloooooooooooooooooooooooooock! No? Ok :(
- NEW CARDS -
1=Terrible, 2=Poor, 3=Average, 4=Good, 5=Excellent
Valdris Felgorge (5/5): The hand size will likely not matter for Arena, but essentially playing Sprint while developing a board? Hell yes!
Abyssal Summoner (3/5): Obviously designed to synergize with the new hand size increase mechanic. Chances are that as WL, you will have cards in your hand most of the game and you need "just" 4 to get decent value. All the new discover effect and Lackey spawners help fill your hand too. This should perform relatively well on average i think.
It would have to be something along the lines of Barrens Stablehand, since most of the Dragons you can get have pretty high stats.
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Btw, did you format your post with the indent yourself or did that happen automatically?:o
- NEW CARD -
1=Terrible, 2=Poor, 3=Average, 4=Good, 5=Excellent
Flik Skyshiv (5/5): Assassinate on a stick. Literally. Very good value and in arena, it could potentially hit multiple minions. Just be sure you are not sniping your own. The battlecry does not discriminate :)
You werent the only one lol! Blizzard has Kripps yt channel linked with this card on their official page which is where we took it lolo!
Oh my god yes! Finally a counter to Highkeeper Ra Warlock. Thank you Blizzard! :kappa:
- NEW CARDS -
1=Terrible, 2=Poor, 3=Average, 4=Good, 5=Excellent
Sanctuary (2/5): This is a hard card to evaluate. Obviously there are turns in Arena, where you dont take damage. Probably more so than in Constructed and certainly, it can happen early, so playing this on curve or on T3/T4 while having board advantage can help you tons. But it will pretty much never triggers while you're behind, which is abysmal. I dont know, maybe it will become the next Tar Creeper, but until i see it in play, i have my doubts.
Zul'Drak Ritualist (3/5): I want to like this card, it is a pretty huge taunt for the cost, but giving your opponent 3 minions, even if they are 1-drops, can come back to bite you. For the next rotation, there dont seem to be many bad outcomes, worst is probably Injured Kvaldir and Flame Imp, but stuff like Spirit of the Dead, Spirit of the Raptor or Spirit of the Rhino could potentially lose you the game, not even joking. Again, i will have to see this card in play to pass my final judgment, maybe it will win you more games than it loses in the end.
Poor Warlocks nowhere to be seen.
Until you said it, no one would even think that, but now looking at your nick and avatar ... i dont know man :D
I had to chuckle :D Fixed it for you :D
- NEW CARDS -
1=Terrible, 2=Poor, 3=Average, 4=Good, 5=Excellent
Kronx Dragonhoof (x/5): Not draftable in Arena.
Veranus (5/5): Good stats, dragon tag and a pretty powerful effect that can help you trade up. Obvious combo with Unleash the Hounds, but thats just beginning.
Necrium Apothecary (4/5): Draft dependent, but if it can trigger literally on anything, it is super powerful.
Crazed Netherwing (5/5): Abyssal Enforcer 2.0. Pretty much. What makes things worse, you can discover this. I dont like this exists.
Nether Breath (3/5): Draft dependent. If you can activate it its amazing, if you cant, its still a removal(ish).
Amber Watcher (5/5): Holy crap. Guardian of Kings is crying in a corner. This card is powerful. Great stats, dragon tag and a huge heal.
Camouflaged Dirigible (3/5): Decent 6-drop with a potentially strong effect. It will become stronger in rotations with more mechs, obviously, but its ok even without the battlecry.
Hot Air Balloon (3/5): Not a bad 1-drop. I would probably prefer a flat 1/3 over this, but mech tag might matter and it can keep buffing itself, if left unchecked. Not like a 1-attack minion would be such a threat, but it is going to be annoying and potential buff target.
^What he said. Please continue this discussion in one thread, thanks!
Because one Abyssal Enforcer wasnt enough. Jesus.
Lol didnt see it until now :o
Congratulations! :) I like BG a lot. Certainly a breath of fresh air in current state of the game. Im looking forward to the new set, but i hope they keep focusing on BG as well. They seem to be so far, hope its not just cause its still in beta and once its fully released, the updates will come much more slowly.
Agreed, they need to do something about the animations. I believe they already said they would, but dont know if i remember it correctly.
@OP: yes, i believe that if you finish quickly, you are already in the Tavern Phase while someone else might still be in Combat Phase. You can clearly see this by tavern tiern upgrade icons poping up on the sidebar or making a triple minion at other player's portraits. That is also why you sometimes have a very long turn, because you are waiting for someone to finish their combat and only then the timer for Tavern Phase begins imho.
Does it give you more time to snatch some minions over your opponent? Maybe. But i dont think its a problem in the long run. There is a lot of RNG and strategy involved in how and when you get to some specific minions and it is usually more influenced by how quickly can you Tier up than if you can finish match a few seconds earlier.
One thing im not sure about, but i think it does work is, if you freeze minions in your Tavern Phase, that essentially locks them, for you (obviously), but they are also temporarily removed from the Minion Pool for your opponens. At least iv never had it happen to me that i would lock a board and one of those minions was missing the next turn.
Wow, this is amazing stuff! Good job!
We do include the link to the card's discussion thread in its card page. So that should cover what you're asking here, basically. If you want to see what ppl had to say about it on release, you can just click the button and read the thread.
I understand what ur saying, but in the end i guess it is the matter of preference and this is how we approach this. For now anyway.
It is good to raise these questions tho, so we can see that ppl might be interested for us to do certain things differently and we can then take that into consideration going forward ;-)
I hate Secrets, this is my "obligatory line" whenever i see Secrets in a custom class, dont take it personally :D
All good :) That being said, iv had quite a success with Patches as well :) His HP can help you "cheat out" some wins early game allowing you to upgrade Tavern more aggressively.