Compare to Call to battle, this is just weaker. The art and idea are nice, but: you do not need the 'targets chosen randomly', and it's a feels-bad-man-epic card , because it needs a weak legendary to make it somewhat consistent and playable.
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I appreciate the feedback, but I've seen this a lot with feedback people have been giving this round, and not just for me, but for everyone. Do people not understand the premise of this competition?
"it needs a weak legendary to make it somewhat consistent and playable."
We are designing cards that have synergy with both Quests. Yeah, you're running a deck with The Marsh Queen, it is a weak legendary. The ENTIRE purpose of me picking The Marsh Queen and Journey to Ungoro to design my card off of, is because of how weak of a legendary it is. That card really needed another card in the set to help it be viable. This is how I envision adding support to The Marsh Queen. Countless cards exist that depend on each other for their power. There is nothing wrong with that, it is part of design in a card game. Just because a card relies on another card to be playable, doesn't mean that it's a bad card.
Looking at the feedback people have been giving, it really feels like people are looking at these cards in a vacuum, instead of looking at the bigger picture of how the cards interact with the quest or the quest rewards. I'm not saying my card is a perfect 5 star card. But I do feel like people are looking at these cards like they would look at new cards for an expansion, instead of having the restrictions of the competition in mind.
Also, just need to address this:
"you do not need the 'targets chosen randomly'"
Why would I not need "Targets chosen randomly"? Shudderwock has it. There are plenty of 1-drops that have targeted battlecries (Elven Archer, Glacial Shard and Faithful Lumi just to name a few) so why would I not put that on the card? What is the game going to do with any targeted battlecries if they are summoned? I'm sorry, but that's just really bad advise to give someone.
I have played the Marsh Queen a lot at the time since I pulled a golden copy from a pack and I must say that your card definitely hits its prime weakness spot on. I rated 4 stars for now, but I have to add that I usually dish out the 5 star ratings only after I've seen all the submissions and yours is definitely a candidate this week. Well done!
I know I have no one to blame but myself for messing up my submission, but as I'm by far not the first to do so, I'd like to suggest the addition of a tool to prevent these mistakes. I imagine a preview button or a dedicated page where you can see your entry and have to confirm your submission would do the job and save two or three people from getting disqualified because of stupidity every week. I hope this wouldn't be too much of an effort and would be very grateful if it could be realized.
Demon Hunter initiate - only one I, no U Ashes of Outland - no A Galakrond's Awakening - no A Saviors of Uldum - no U Rise of Shadows - no W Naxxramas - no A Goblins vs Gnomes - no I Blackrock Mountain - no A The Grand Tournament - no A League of Explorers - no A Whispers of the old Gods - no W Karazhan - no A Gadgetzan - no A Journey to Un'goro - no U Knights of the Frozen Throne - no I, no Z Kobolds and Catacombs - no A Witchwood - no I, no W The Boomsday Project - no A Rastakhan - no A Basic, Classic, HoF - no A
Yeah, it was the first iteration versus the last one. The description is also completely written with the second card in mind. I submitted on mobile and only saw the top part of the card with the art and the cost. The one I wanted to submit somehow ended up in another folder.... Im really angry with myself now.
I'd really like to make Sylendra work. How do you like this version:
More Cenarius flavor and more impact from the Treants. The 5/5 threshold could be reached by turn 8 (without ramping). At worst (assuming you don't play it on curve) this is a 4 mana 3/2 that summons two 1/1s with taunt, at best it's a 10 mana 3/2 that summons two 7/7s with taunt. Still not strong enough?
(Edit: I changed the Battlecry to an end of turn effect because this version would be really OP otherwise and it feels just wrong to combine it with the unspent mana condition.)
I like both of the cards, but I have a strong feeling that Geode Elemental's art is already in the game. I can't place it right now, sorry. I'm also not sure if Elementals are very fitting for druid, maybe you can find another character for that cool effect. You should also take a look at the wording: who is meant to gain health? As it stands, I would expcet your hero to gain health, but the minion gaining it would be interesting, too.
MenacingBagel:
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Cool card, nothing too spectacular but solid.
Shivershine:
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My favorite Warrior card so far. The only negative thing I can come up with is that the background of the art is black.
economicaooc:
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Your card has no rarity and no watermark. I also think it is too strong. You should cut either the cost reduction or the Rush.
shaveyou:
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Simple but effective. The Ape in Paladin indeed might xost you one star, but I like it!
Feuerrabe:
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I like Stalwart Axe best. Great synergy with both quests and very useful. What would you think about gaining durability instead of attack? Would that be too OP?
BasilAnguis:
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I really like your idea, but maybe you should give it Taunt. I would expect this to go off only once in a majority of games and it might be too weak in that case.
TheHoax91:
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I would go with the third one (lol), because the others are too close to Kael'thas Sunstrider. Also be careful with the wording: you made it "if" you play it - what happens if you don't play it this turn? Wouldn't be "when" you play it be better? Or was that intentional?
bananenparty:
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Welcome at the CDC section! Nice nickname you got there :D I like your idea. You should definetly keep the cost at 2, we all know what happens if Rogues finish the quest too early. You might alter the stats, though. My gut says 2/1 would be better, but I'm no expert by far.
Nirast:
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There's a typo in the first line and the last period should be after the brackets. Cool idea!
Xarkkal:
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Really hard to decide between the two, they both look very good. I think I would go with Nature's Wrath because the probability that it's useful in different situations is higher in my opinion. Are you sure that's a cat? :D
CapnMunch:
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Sorry, but that doesn't look very creative.
Thonson:
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My favorite Paladin card so far, I couldn't think of anything better for this competition. Make sure to add the explanation when you submit!
Destroyer:
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Great theme! Cool idea, very creative!
grumpymonk:
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The Murloc is okay but a bit boring. Amber Rager looks better, but Tricks of the Trade I like best. I'm not sure if that doesn't end up OP (especially after The Caverns Below is completed, but it's a really cool idea!
Cg8889:
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I prefer the Murloc. 1 damage AOE is okay I guess, even if that is supposed to be a weakness of them.
KANSAS:
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Boy, we both always end up so close to the finals… this time we'll make it! I like your idea for Zealous Priest, but Morgl is also a very good card. The others look a little pale next to those very creative designs. Maybe Morgl could summon a Murloc for every spell cast this game instead of this turn? It should also be a random Murloc I think.
Inconspicuosaurus:
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I prefer the second iteration, it's simpler. Solid card.
DescentOfDragonsOP:
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No typos or grammar mistakes! :-) It's a solid card but not very creative.
Thez:
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I like the card! "Frontline Vanguard" seems a bit of a double, though. Isn't the vanguard meant to be at the front anyways?
meisterz39:
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Hakuna Matata is funny but I don't think people will give you high rates for this. Fiery Warbringer looks okay, but I don't see the connection between the art & the name and the effect.
Hordaki:
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Both are good cards. Anubisath Guardian looks stronger.
Wailor:
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Chumsayer is a fun card but probably too strong. Darkspear Survivor is my favorite from you, but someone else had a very similar idea.
thepowrofcheese:
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Not creative enough, sorry.
linkblade91:
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Nice card! You should add an explanation that the Tauren Warrior has Taunt so it counts for both quests.
Demonxz95:
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There are a few other cards with a very similar direction, even if you were the first to post it. I'm sorry, but I'm used to more creative ideas from you.
MrRhapsody:
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It would really fit quite well, but I wouldn't submit a card twice.
Pokeniner:
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Wow, this looks strong but the restriction to legendaries keeps the power level in check with the quest in mind. It might be too strong nevertheless. I'll have to think about ways to exploit this.
I admit this is a bit boring, but the art just yelled for a choose one druid spell and I think it might be useful. Wasn't sure at all about which watermark to put on this.
A refuel for Discolock. I'm not sure about the wording and if this shouldn't be a spell. The flavor is meant to suggest that you've lost your way in the tunnels (discarded your cards) and the kobold helps you back on track (draw).
My favorite out of the three, Sylendra is a flexible minion that helps you build a board in a wide variety of situations. Note that it's up to you if you proceed to spend that unspent mana or not. I also did my lore homework: She's the Head of the Druids of the Antler who revere Malorne, father of Cenarius, which is why I made her summon a treant. With all the treant cards in that expansion, I figured she would be placed best in DoD. I'm not sure about the cost and the stats, but I wanted the card to be cheap to be as flexible as possible and a little overstated, so that she still gives some value if you make her summon a 1/1 token.
Please tell me what you think of those! I will start writing up your feedback right now.
Wow. Every time I get to bed before 11 pm on a Monday, I wake up to find 3 sites of ideas for the new competition. You guys are quick and it seems to be a slight disadvantage to live in Europe in this case.
I'm not sure when I'll find the time to contribute to this as I'm tending a sick cat and have lots of work stuff to do. Great theme, though!
Wow, that was a cool riddle! I like your constant flow of new ideas. Give me some time to think of something, I'll try to post the next riddle tonight or early tomorrow within the next 5 to 18 hours.
I think every part of the riddle gives us a word and putting them together results in the searched card's name. From this assumption I conclude that it will be hard for people who aren't native speakers. I'll still give it a try, maybe someone else can build upon my ideas:
Think of a place whose drinks make eyes droop
No idea. This might be WoW-connected.
then, a container, filled with worms or maybe soup
This might be a can.
third, a way of speech, so curt it’s almost rude
First thing that comes to my mind is to slur but I'm not sure if that qualifies as "curt".
lastly, a kind of movement, continuous and smooth
I'd go with to glide here.
Thankfully, we have a nice tool for card searching. I've put in can, slur and glide and found out that "can" is part of quite a few arcane and volcano-related cards, ... wait.
It's Incanter's Flow, isn't it? Inn, can and flow are fitting perfectly, I just don't know about "ter's" as a way of speech, but I'm certainly missing something a native speaker grasps immediately.
Priest's new identity has been out for a while now but I haven't seen any decks that focus on this very much so far. Therefore I tried my hands at it myself, the result being this:
(Edit: lol, I just realized there are no "new identity" cards in there but Power Infusion. But yeah, the spirit is there. The deck revolves around healing and buffing our minions.)
Buff Priest
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The idea is to get out cheap minions early and buff them with spells and heal to outvalue our opponents. In my eyes the dragon package and Galakrond are especially debatable. I added the first mainly because of Breath of the Infinite. While the invokers are great and really do their job, I'm not so sure about Galakrond himself. I have yet to play him in a game and really would have needed him only once but didn't draw him in time.
So far I have played the deck on ranks 3 and 2 platinum with a win rate of around 50% over less than 10 games. I've beaten a Tempo Demon Hunter and lost to a Galakrond Rogue only through highroll RNG on his side.
So maybe this deck is actually viable, but as I know that I'm no good at deck building, I was hoping for some ideas from you for improving it. What do you think?
If nothing else, it was fun to build something up from scratch that actually seems to work for a change.
Props to whoever submitted the Sylvanas Prime card. Looks like there was no need to worry about lots of Sylvanas submissions but the one that did come around eventually is far better than mine. Good luck!
I gave it 3 stars because the first version is really cool and a good set-up for the prime version, but I think the prime is way OP when compared to the other prime cards.
Now that you've pointed it out, that's incredibly obvious. 6 mana is way to cheap for stealing 3 minions, the silence part won't make that much worse. Guess I was blinded by the great idea of using her former form as a Ranger to set up the Prime card. I didn't know that was wrong, too, until Sinti pointed it out. 3 stars sounds reasonable, the Prime card is just too undercosted.
Finally found the time to update my Wall of Fame (reached 1.000 with Mage in March and first time legend in Wild in April). Right beneath this is my comfy armchair where I usually play. :-)
Props to whoever submitted the Sylvanas Prime card. Looks like there was no need to worry about lots of Sylvanas submissions but the one that did come around eventually is far better than mine. Good luck!
I went with a Blood Elf Rogue for my first try on a whim. After 2 hours I'm at level 10 and slowly get a feeling for the game. I learned that confronting more than one enemy at a time is a bad idea and more than two is suicide. I like the card and the quest system but I have no idea about the main story so far. Probably it hasn't even begun yet. It's a little inconvenient that there seems to be no immediate indicator that tells me if a picked up piece of equipment is better than what I carry at the moment. That was a really useful feature in the witcher 3. Thanks again for helping me getting started!
Wow, that's lots of info, thank you very much! I guess I'll just give retail a shot and see how it feels. One last question for the moment: from what I've seen so far (not yet through with the videos, thanks Kovachut!), Demon Hunter looks like a cool class. That means I should take a Blood Elf character to start with, is that right? If I got Theodrinus right, I can change my class after the free trial part is over, though, so it shouldn't be that important...
Very very great info from all of you, this helped a lot!
I have played the Marsh Queen a lot at the time since I pulled a golden copy from a pack and I must say that your card definitely hits its prime weakness spot on. I rated 4 stars for now, but I have to add that I usually dish out the 5 star ratings only after I've seen all the submissions and yours is definitely a candidate this week. Well done!
I know I have no one to blame but myself for messing up my submission, but as I'm by far not the first to do so, I'd like to suggest the addition of a tool to prevent these mistakes. I imagine a preview button or a dedicated page where you can see your entry and have to confirm your submission would do the job and save two or three people from getting disqualified because of stupidity every week. I hope this wouldn't be too much of an effort and would be very grateful if it could be realized.
I'm confused.
Demon Hunter initiate - only one I, no U
Ashes of Outland - no A
Galakrond's Awakening - no A
Saviors of Uldum - no U
Rise of Shadows - no W
Naxxramas - no A
Goblins vs Gnomes - no I
Blackrock Mountain - no A
The Grand Tournament - no A
League of Explorers - no A
Whispers of the old Gods - no W
Karazhan - no A
Gadgetzan - no A
Journey to Un'goro - no U
Knights of the Frozen Throne - no I, no Z
Kobolds and Catacombs - no A
Witchwood - no I, no W
The Boomsday Project - no A
Rastakhan - no A
Basic, Classic, HoF - no A
Yeah, it was the first iteration versus the last one. The description is also completely written with the second card in mind. I submitted on mobile and only saw the top part of the card with the art and the cost. The one I wanted to submit somehow ended up in another folder.... Im really angry with myself now.
Shiiiiiiit I choose the wrong version of my card in the gallery and submitted the wrong card. I guess that can't be helped, can it?
I'd really like to make Sylendra work. How do you like this version:
More Cenarius flavor and more impact from the Treants. The 5/5 threshold could be reached by turn 8 (without ramping). At worst (assuming you don't play it on curve) this is a 4 mana 3/2 that summons two 1/1s with taunt, at best it's a 10 mana 3/2 that summons two 7/7s with taunt. Still not strong enough?
(Edit: I changed the Battlecry to an end of turn effect because this version would be really OP otherwise and it feels just wrong to combine it with the unspent mana condition.)
Feedback!
Elfensilver:
MenacingBagel:
Shivershine:
economicaooc:
shaveyou:
Feuerrabe:
BasilAnguis:
TheHoax91:
bananenparty:
Nirast:
Xarkkal:
CapnMunch:
Thonson:
Destroyer:
grumpymonk:
Cg8889:
KANSAS:
Inconspicuosaurus:
DescentOfDragonsOP:
Thez:
meisterz39:
Hordaki:
Wailor:
thepowrofcheese:
linkblade91:
Demonxz95:
MrRhapsody:
Pokeniner:
Here are my ideas for this week:
I admit this is a bit boring, but the art just yelled for a choose one druid spell and I think it might be useful. Wasn't sure at all about which watermark to put on this.
A refuel for Discolock. I'm not sure about the wording and if this shouldn't be a spell. The flavor is meant to suggest that you've lost your way in the tunnels (discarded your cards) and the kobold helps you back on track (draw).
My favorite out of the three, Sylendra is a flexible minion that helps you build a board in a wide variety of situations. Note that it's up to you if you proceed to spend that unspent mana or not. I also did my lore homework: She's the Head of the Druids of the Antler who revere Malorne, father of Cenarius, which is why I made her summon a treant. With all the treant cards in that expansion, I figured she would be placed best in DoD. I'm not sure about the cost and the stats, but I wanted the card to be cheap to be as flexible as possible and a little overstated, so that she still gives some value if you make her summon a 1/1 token.
Please tell me what you think of those! I will start writing up your feedback right now.
Congrats! What impressed me most was the depth of the card (even though I needed your explanation to understand it). Well done!
That's right! You're next, JFK :-)
Wow. Every time I get to bed before 11 pm on a Monday, I wake up to find 3 sites of ideas for the new competition. You guys are quick and it seems to be a slight disadvantage to live in Europe in this case.
I'm not sure when I'll find the time to contribute to this as I'm tending a sick cat and have lots of work stuff to do. Great theme, though!
Alright, this probably ends up too easy, but let's try a new style:
Veggie Ball
Wow, that was a cool riddle! I like your constant flow of new ideas. Give me some time to think of something, I'll try to post the next riddle tonight or early tomorrow within the next 5 to 18 hours.
I think every part of the riddle gives us a word and putting them together results in the searched card's name. From this assumption I conclude that it will be hard for people who aren't native speakers. I'll still give it a try, maybe someone else can build upon my ideas:
Think of a place whose drinks make eyes droop
No idea. This might be WoW-connected.
then, a container, filled with worms or maybe soup
This might be a can.
third, a way of speech, so curt it’s almost rude
First thing that comes to my mind is to slur but I'm not sure if that qualifies as "curt".
lastly, a kind of movement, continuous and smooth
I'd go with to glide here.
Thankfully, we have a nice tool for card searching. I've put in can, slur and glide and found out that "can" is part of quite a few arcane and volcano-related cards, ... wait.
It's Incanter's Flow, isn't it? Inn, can and flow are fitting perfectly, I just don't know about "ter's" as a way of speech, but I'm certainly missing something a native speaker grasps immediately.
Priest's new identity has been out for a while now but I haven't seen any decks that focus on this very much so far. Therefore I tried my hands at it myself, the result being this:
(Edit: lol, I just realized there are no "new identity" cards in there but Power Infusion. But yeah, the spirit is there. The deck revolves around healing and buffing our minions.)
The idea is to get out cheap minions early and buff them with spells and heal to outvalue our opponents. In my eyes the dragon package and Galakrond are especially debatable. I added the first mainly because of Breath of the Infinite. While the invokers are great and really do their job, I'm not so sure about Galakrond himself. I have yet to play him in a game and really would have needed him only once but didn't draw him in time.
Sethekk Veilweaver and Dark Prophecy are the powerhouses of this deck. If you manage to drop Embalming Ritual on a veilweaver or Reliquary of Souls, our opponent usually gets in trouble.
So far I have played the deck on ranks 3 and 2 platinum with a win rate of around 50% over less than 10 games. I've beaten a Tempo Demon Hunter and lost to a Galakrond Rogue only through highroll RNG on his side.
So maybe this deck is actually viable, but as I know that I'm no good at deck building, I was hoping for some ideas from you for improving it. What do you think?
If nothing else, it was fun to build something up from scratch that actually seems to work for a change.
Now that you've pointed it out, that's incredibly obvious. 6 mana is way to cheap for stealing 3 minions, the silence part won't make that much worse. Guess I was blinded by the great idea of using her former form as a Ranger to set up the Prime card. I didn't know that was wrong, too, until Sinti pointed it out. 3 stars sounds reasonable, the Prime card is just too undercosted.
Finally found the time to update my Wall of Fame (reached 1.000 with Mage in March and first time legend in Wild in April). Right beneath this is my comfy armchair where I usually play. :-)
Props to whoever submitted the Sylvanas Prime card. Looks like there was no need to worry about lots of Sylvanas submissions but the one that did come around eventually is far better than mine. Good luck!
I went with a Blood Elf Rogue for my first try on a whim. After 2 hours I'm at level 10 and slowly get a feeling for the game. I learned that confronting more than one enemy at a time is a bad idea and more than two is suicide. I like the card and the quest system but I have no idea about the main story so far. Probably it hasn't even begun yet. It's a little inconvenient that there seems to be no immediate indicator that tells me if a picked up piece of equipment is better than what I carry at the moment. That was a really useful feature in the witcher 3. Thanks again for helping me getting started!
Wow, that's lots of info, thank you very much! I guess I'll just give retail a shot and see how it feels. One last question for the moment: from what I've seen so far (not yet through with the videos, thanks Kovachut!), Demon Hunter looks like a cool class. That means I should take a Blood Elf character to start with, is that right? If I got Theodrinus right, I can change my class after the free trial part is over, though, so it shouldn't be that important...
Very very great info from all of you, this helped a lot!