Nope, the taunt would have left me with 0 mana and I had no answer in hand or I would have saved Zeph up for later use (see first screenshot). I figured it was brawl or die and tried to push him in that direction but he obviously knew better.
Ah, that last paragraph explains it. Holy Nova was fine for me, I see why he offered this. I just didn't get the other two because even if my opponent would have traded into the taunt the best possible way for me, that would have been worse than the worst possible brawl outcome. But now you mention it I remember a stream or something where they explained that Zeph always (?) goes for a variety of answers, like offering taunt, aoe and heal if you use him defensively. Thank you!
Really cool deck! I have lots of fun with this, even if I have only managed to pull off the combo twice so far and both times the first card drawn was Anka lol.
I'm missing Sneed though and replaced him with a serpent egg for the moment since I find myself struggling in the early game quite often. Any better suggestions?
Sorry for the necro but can someone tell me what I'm missing here?
I was specifically looking for Brawl and while Holy Nova at least makes a bit of sense, the other two just seem weird. I guess I would have lost anyway but who knows if Alex wouldn't have sent me some heal. As it stood, my opponent used the remaining 4 attack on board plus Soulfire to finish me next turn.
A minion who helps setting traps is Professor Putricide but I don't see who his sibling might be or where a groom comes in. In a wider way of thinking about traps, Mok'Nathal Lion could be meant, possible brothers being Savannah Highmane and King of Beasts. Since the riddle indicates the card is rarely used and it fits the "groom" part better, I'll go with King of Beasts.
(Side note: maybe we're overthinking it and the groom is Stablemaster. Who could be her brother?)
Which is just another example for our need of a preview / confirmation page or the ability to delete and repost once a week.
I had a quick look and checked how many entries could have been saved if we had this. The best way to measure the problem are probably the DQs, which we've had 28 of so far, resulting in an average of just above 2 per week (please note that there were 10 DQs in week 2 because of missing watermarks). Please keep in mind that the real number is probably higher because I'm not able to track down errors that didn't lead to a DQ like major spelling issues, submitting already used art or something along those lines. I've heard there even are people who submitted the wrong card.
Back to topic.
@Incospicuosaurus: The basic version is good, but maybe you could find a way to avoid the orphan in the last line of text. Personally, I find the third alternative in the spoiler more interesting. To adapt Rexus first and then transfer the choice to the Hero Power is a very elegant solution. The other two look a bit clunky next to this. If I were in your shoes, I'd probably submit the more creative version.
@Nirast: I prefer the Mage Hero Power that deals 4 damage every third turn. I haven't seen anyone putting "dormant" on a Hero Power, so you'd net some extra points for creativity from me. The effect is strong, but not OP imo.
Am I the only one who's irritated by the widespread use of double quotation marks ("Hero Power") instead of single ones ('Hero Power')? Even some of the veterans do this. Are there old cards where doubles were used so it's okay to do so?
(Also: as far as I know, if your card ends with the quote of your new Hero Power, the period should be inside the quotation marks.)
Demon, that's usually your kind of business. Can you confirm or correct this?
@TheHoax91: A'dal looks a lot better to me now, this could be very annoying to play against. It's a good thing you've put it behind the Pure Paladin restriction. I must say Symbiosis is even more interesting, though. That's a great example for a highly creative card that doesn't blow up the boundaries of what we're used to (which are my favorite cards in these competitions). Major BUT: Making it change both player's Hero Powers could be too much. There are lots of cards and even decks which are directly countered by your card. Toxic Reinforcements, Activate the Obelisk, Supreme Archaeology, practically almost all the Uldum quests and/or their rewards. I love this effect but you should really restrict it to your own Hero Power.
@DestroyerR: Yeah, 1 Health sounds more fair. It's hard to evaluate because it triggers every turn and that way is of potentially really high value. If you play this on curve you should be able to trigger it at least 5 to 8 times. A priest would have to pay 10 to 16 mana for this. Your new card is very creative, I like the idea.
Second try, this one shouldn't be OP and is closer to the lore. I'm still looking for Dragonwrath's art. Is it strong enough? Should I put a cost reduction on the Hero Power (not sure if that wouldn't be too much text)...
Edit: For lore-overkill it should be a Deathrattle effect of course. I like it, but I feel like it misses something like spell damage or cost reduction. Has anyone an idea that doesn't include too much text?
Edit 2: Whoops, missed the "Passive" for the Hero Power.
Feedback time! It's amazing how creative you guys are. I was worried when I read the theme because there are tons of Hero Powers between all the Dungeon Runs and stuff, but what you came up with in that short of a time is very impressive!
DestroyeR:
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I'm really not sure about this, but I have concerns about two points: 1) Is it okay to not fully spell out what the Hero Power does on the spell? 2) Restoring 2 Health for free looks OP.
TheHoax91:
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I don't like A'dal very much. Giving Divine Shield is an obvious idea (I've also had), but giving it to ALL of your minions is OP. I wouldn't suggest giving it to one friendly minion, since that's already in the game (some dungeon run or something). The Prophet is very creative but would be soooo annoying. Very good idea to make it an aura! Shaman is also a cool idea, but I generally don't like "destroy the enemy hero" cards, so the priest is my favorite.
DescentOfDragonsOP:
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It's too strong for my taste. Make it 3 damage, like KANSAS suggested. Overload is a great idea!
MurlocAggroB:
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You've already submitted, but still: I think it's too strong, even on a timer.
Conduit:
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Interesting idea. The main problem I see is that you'd have to build your deck around this to be viable, but then you'd need a reliable tutor… Maybe make it a minion?
meisterz39:
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Windfury always manages to scare me. It's okay as a one time threat, but being able to give it to a minion every turn is too much imho. Maybe you could make it an aura of a minion or tie it to the durability of the weapon?
shaveyou:
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Wow, that's a radical take! I think it has great potential, maybe you could even consider to destroy only enemy minions - it's a huge drawback after all.
Pokeniner:
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You've already submitted, but still: Nice card, I really like it! It looks balanced and flavorful.
Tox:
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I would assume that you get more uses as you cast more spells, is that correct? It looks very complicated as you'd need a lot of cheap spells to make use of this. On the other hand it's versatile, since you don't always want to draw lots of cards.
KANSAS:
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Haha, nice idea! I like the flavor!
Dermostatic:
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As you've already pointed out, it's not very creative. I also think the art is too dark for Druid, it almost looks like a Shaman card. It doesn't work well with thery light theme of the Hero Power art.
MenacingBagel:
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There are quite a few spelling errors in your card and tokens, you should check that before submitting. I won't comment balance, as you just want to have fun with this. It certainly looks very cool!
Inconspicuosaurus:
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Cool idea. I'd at least try out the Hunter iteration if I were you and see which one feels better.
linkblade91:
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To The Arena and Blackhand both look very cool to me. I'd suggest submitting Blackhand and leaving To The Arena to Sinti ;-)
Demonxz95:
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Quite creative approach! I'm not sure if this doesn't end up OP, though. There seem quite a few ways to abuse this.
CapnMunch:
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Interesting idea. You should try to do something about the single word in the last line of G'huun and it looks like there are two spaces between "deck." and "Restore" in the Hero Power. I like it!
bigcums:
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Honestly, I don't like it. It looks too strong to me and the effect feels very counterintuitive. Sorry.
First idea for this week. A control tool for mage and I really like the character. How do you like it? Is turn 6 too early for this?
Edit: Someone on imgur told me it's way too strong, something I feared right from the start. Do you think it would be still OP behind a highlander restriction?
Edit 2: Forget it, you could combo this with Frost Nova into a 5 mana perma freeze. No way to balance this. Back to the drawing board...
I'll try and write down my thoughts about this like last time. Maybe someone is able to pick up a piece and we'll get there together.
"cop folded shoplifters"
DestroyerR told us it's an anagram, so rearranging the letters presents us not only with a coherent answer but also with a hint at a specific card which is strong enough to solve the riddle.
From "cop" alone I would deduce that the anagram consists of the whole answer and not word by word, since I don't know another word made of the letter c, o and p. So we're looking for a sentence with an unknown number of words, made of 20 letters. (The number of words in the solution would be a great hint!) On second thoughts, maybe the number of words and the number of letters per word are correct... that makes me pretty sure the first word is "the".
I'd still like to try and think of the solution from the back end onwards like in my example with Hagatha. There aren't that many characters who are iconic enough in context with their set to determine them with a short sentence. The Lich King is another one that comes to mind as well as Arch-Villain Rafaam, Medivh, the Guardian and Dr. Boom, Mad Genius.
None of those ring a bell for me when it comes to the fact that the riddle is presented in the form of an interview. The only connection I can come up with is Rafaam recruiting the League of E.V.I.L. - maybe he did some job interviews?
Finally, "mischievous spirits" causes an itch at the back of my mind. Maybe there's a hint in here, but I don't get it (yet). It feels like an error textbox for a game, but that wouldn't help solving the riddle.
Conclusion: I guess the first word is "the" and it has to be a card that is iconic for it's set. For the sake of making a guess, I say The Lich King.
well, maybe a bit Less outside of the box... the anagram does answer the interview question coherently (meaning it’s closer to a set), but consider this: if the anagram only reveals the set, how come that alone is enough to discover the card?
Okay, so say it was an anagram of "They entered my woods", the solution would be Hagatha the Witch?
I assume it's that code thing where the letters get substituted, haven't you done one of those before? If I remember correctly they are usually solved by taking short words like "cop" in this case and see if the riddle makes sense if that means "the" or "and". There are other similar tools to crack these that I don't remember because I'm not into this, but if you really did the code thing and made them anagrams on top of that... that's a tough one.
So I'll just pounce on the interview part, guess Daring Reporter and beg for a hint ;-)
Whatever you did, kudos for coming up with yet another style!
I guess it's about the sentiment that Arthas looked like the winner of the last competition right from the start, which became a thing because it was your theme. If I remember correctly someone said something along the lines of Arthas not being made for the competition, but the competition themed to fit Arthas, which came up again when you indeed won in the end.
While I understand those feelings and have to admit the same thought crossed my mind, it clearly is absolutely legitimate to do so. Everybody who wins a competition at least benefits from knowing about the theme earlier than the rest of us (this argument being somewhat softened if they suggest multiple themes) and might actually build their suggestion around a cool card they created beforehand. But to be fair, everyone of us has a chance to reap these benefits, we just have to win a competition. The only alternative I can think of would be to ban the one who suggests the theme of the week from the respective competition, and that would be a poor reward for winning indeed. So we'll just have to live with the fact that the winners get a little headstart when their theme is due and compensate with a burst of creativity and brain power. It's also worth noting that there's a week's break between the win and the winner's themed competition, so there's no way to influence every week for any one competitor. And after all, you can't predict other people's creativity, I don't expect a lot of cases of people winning their own themes.
tl;dr: imho, there's a grain of truth in that criticism but it can't be helped. You didn't do anything wrong or unfair and shouldn't feel bad. Those wins were well deserved.
Nope, the taunt would have left me with 0 mana and I had no answer in hand or I would have saved Zeph up for later use (see first screenshot). I figured it was brawl or die and tried to push him in that direction but he obviously knew better.
Ah, that last paragraph explains it. Holy Nova was fine for me, I see why he offered this. I just didn't get the other two because even if my opponent would have traded into the taunt the best possible way for me, that would have been worse than the worst possible brawl outcome. But now you mention it I remember a stream or something where they explained that Zeph always (?) goes for a variety of answers, like offering taunt, aoe and heal if you use him defensively. Thank you!
Really cool deck! I have lots of fun with this, even if I have only managed to pull off the combo twice so far and both times the first card drawn was Anka lol.
I'm missing Sneed though and replaced him with a serpent egg for the moment since I find myself struggling in the early game quite often. Any better suggestions?
Thanks for sharing!
Sorry for the necro but can someone tell me what I'm missing here?
I was specifically looking for Brawl and while Holy Nova at least makes a bit of sense, the other two just seem weird. I guess I would have lost anyway but who knows if Alex wouldn't have sent me some heal. As it stood, my opponent used the remaining 4 attack on board plus Soulfire to finish me next turn.
A minion who helps setting traps is Professor Putricide but I don't see who his sibling might be or where a groom comes in. In a wider way of thinking about traps, Mok'Nathal Lion could be meant, possible brothers being Savannah Highmane and King of Beasts. Since the riddle indicates the card is rarely used and it fits the "groom" part better, I'll go with King of Beasts.
(Side note: maybe we're overthinking it and the groom is Stablemaster. Who could be her brother?)
Which is just another example for our need of a preview / confirmation page or the ability to delete and repost once a week.
I had a quick look and checked how many entries could have been saved if we had this. The best way to measure the problem are probably the DQs, which we've had 28 of so far, resulting in an average of just above 2 per week (please note that there were 10 DQs in week 2 because of missing watermarks). Please keep in mind that the real number is probably higher because I'm not able to track down errors that didn't lead to a DQ like major spelling issues, submitting already used art or something along those lines. I've heard there even are people who submitted the wrong card.
Back to topic.
@Incospicuosaurus: The basic version is good, but maybe you could find a way to avoid the orphan in the last line of text. Personally, I find the third alternative in the spoiler more interesting. To adapt Rexus first and then transfer the choice to the Hero Power is a very elegant solution. The other two look a bit clunky next to this. If I were in your shoes, I'd probably submit the more creative version.
@Nirast: I prefer the Mage Hero Power that deals 4 damage every third turn. I haven't seen anyone putting "dormant" on a Hero Power, so you'd net some extra points for creativity from me. The effect is strong, but not OP imo.
Thanks for pointing me at Metamorphosis, I had overlooked this. I guess both variations are viable then.
Am I the only one who's irritated by the widespread use of double quotation marks ("Hero Power") instead of single ones ('Hero Power')? Even some of the veterans do this. Are there old cards where doubles were used so it's okay to do so?
(Also: as far as I know, if your card ends with the quote of your new Hero Power, the period should be inside the quotation marks.)
Demon, that's usually your kind of business. Can you confirm or correct this?
Thanks for the feedback so far!
@TheHoax91: A'dal looks a lot better to me now, this could be very annoying to play against. It's a good thing you've put it behind the Pure Paladin restriction. I must say Symbiosis is even more interesting, though. That's a great example for a highly creative card that doesn't blow up the boundaries of what we're used to (which are my favorite cards in these competitions). Major BUT: Making it change both player's Hero Powers could be too much. There are lots of cards and even decks which are directly countered by your card. Toxic Reinforcements, Activate the Obelisk, Supreme Archaeology, practically almost all the Uldum quests and/or their rewards. I love this effect but you should really restrict it to your own Hero Power.
@DestroyerR: Yeah, 1 Health sounds more fair. It's hard to evaluate because it triggers every turn and that way is of potentially really high value. If you play this on curve you should be able to trigger it at least 5 to 8 times. A priest would have to pay 10 to 16 mana for this. Your new card is very creative, I like the idea.
Second try, this one shouldn't be OP and is closer to the lore. I'm still looking for Dragonwrath's art. Is it strong enough? Should I put a cost reduction on the Hero Power (not sure if that wouldn't be too much text)...
Edit: For lore-overkill it should be a Deathrattle effect of course. I like it, but I feel like it misses something like spell damage or cost reduction. Has anyone an idea that doesn't include too much text?
Edit 2: Whoops, missed the "Passive" for the Hero Power.
Well done Conduit, congrats! It was my favorite card flavor-wise.
Feedback time! It's amazing how creative you guys are. I was worried when I read the theme because there are tons of Hero Powers between all the Dungeon Runs and stuff, but what you came up with in that short of a time is very impressive!
DestroyeR:
TheHoax91:
DescentOfDragonsOP:
MurlocAggroB:
Conduit:
meisterz39:
shaveyou:
Pokeniner:
Tox:
KANSAS:
Dermostatic:
MenacingBagel:
Inconspicuosaurus:
linkblade91:
Demonxz95:
CapnMunch:
bigcums:
First idea for this week. A control tool for mage and I really like the character. How do you like it? Is turn 6 too early for this?
Edit: Someone on imgur told me it's way too strong, something I feared right from the start. Do you think it would be still OP behind a highlander restriction?
Edit 2: Forget it, you could combo this with Frost Nova into a 5 mana perma freeze. No way to balance this. Back to the drawing board...
Wow. This is insane.
The 3 "o"s looks like a good place to go on. Cool, fool, pool. Hm.
I'll try and write down my thoughts about this like last time. Maybe someone is able to pick up a piece and we'll get there together.
"cop folded shoplifters"
DestroyerR told us it's an anagram, so rearranging the letters presents us not only with a coherent answer but also with a hint at a specific card which is strong enough to solve the riddle.
From "cop" alone I would deduce that the anagram consists of the whole answer and not word by word, since I don't know another word made of the letter c, o and p. So we're looking for a sentence with an unknown number of words, made of 20 letters. (The number of words in the solution would be a great hint!) On second thoughts, maybe the number of words and the number of letters per word are correct... that makes me pretty sure the first word is "the".
I'd still like to try and think of the solution from the back end onwards like in my example with Hagatha. There aren't that many characters who are iconic enough in context with their set to determine them with a short sentence. The Lich King is another one that comes to mind as well as Arch-Villain Rafaam, Medivh, the Guardian and Dr. Boom, Mad Genius.
None of those ring a bell for me when it comes to the fact that the riddle is presented in the form of an interview. The only connection I can come up with is Rafaam recruiting the League of E.V.I.L. - maybe he did some job interviews?
Finally, "mischievous spirits" causes an itch at the back of my mind. Maybe there's a hint in here, but I don't get it (yet). It feels like an error textbox for a game, but that wouldn't help solving the riddle.
Conclusion: I guess the first word is "the" and it has to be a card that is iconic for it's set. For the sake of making a guess, I say The Lich King.
Okay, so say it was an anagram of "They entered my woods", the solution would be Hagatha the Witch?
I assume it's that code thing where the letters get substituted, haven't you done one of those before? If I remember correctly they are usually solved by taking short words like "cop" in this case and see if the riddle makes sense if that means "the" or "and". There are other similar tools to crack these that I don't remember because I'm not into this, but if you really did the code thing and made them anagrams on top of that... that's a tough one.
So I'll just pounce on the interview part, guess Daring Reporter and beg for a hint ;-)
Whatever you did, kudos for coming up with yet another style!
I guess it's about the sentiment that Arthas looked like the winner of the last competition right from the start, which became a thing because it was your theme. If I remember correctly someone said something along the lines of Arthas not being made for the competition, but the competition themed to fit Arthas, which came up again when you indeed won in the end.
While I understand those feelings and have to admit the same thought crossed my mind, it clearly is absolutely legitimate to do so. Everybody who wins a competition at least benefits from knowing about the theme earlier than the rest of us (this argument being somewhat softened if they suggest multiple themes) and might actually build their suggestion around a cool card they created beforehand. But to be fair, everyone of us has a chance to reap these benefits, we just have to win a competition. The only alternative I can think of would be to ban the one who suggests the theme of the week from the respective competition, and that would be a poor reward for winning indeed. So we'll just have to live with the fact that the winners get a little headstart when their theme is due and compensate with a burst of creativity and brain power. It's also worth noting that there's a week's break between the win and the winner's themed competition, so there's no way to influence every week for any one competitor. And after all, you can't predict other people's creativity, I don't expect a lot of cases of people winning their own themes.
tl;dr: imho, there's a grain of truth in that criticism but it can't be helped. You didn't do anything wrong or unfair and shouldn't feel bad. Those wins were well deserved.
Spell Mage did it for me at first try.