Everything You Need to Know About Hearthstone's Year of the Hydra & New 250 Card Core Set (72 Returning Cards)

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  GreatTichu Crossroads Historian 370 234 Posts Joined 03/06/2021
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Reno? Oh no this means highlander will be a thing?

  Where are Goblin Blastmage and Snowchugger ? I was sure those were coming in standard...

  Big miss for me are Brightwing and War Cache for generating cards i don't have in my collection...

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  davidwizard 330 280 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Does anyone know where one can see ONLY the "new" additions to the Core Set? I keep seeing the full list, but I'd really like to see just what's new. Thanks!

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  Caro 2180 2417 Posts Joined 03/12/2020
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  For some reason I expected at least 80% of the core set to change but alas no. Also some choices like Fiery War Axe don't make sense when there's Azsharan Trident that's much better.

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  bondiolorg 230 66 Posts Joined 06/04/2021
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Probably related to RNG pool that one.

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  YourPrivateNightmare Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Gonna be honest, I'm somewhat disappoint with this Core set. Not that there aren't some neat changes, but it feels like a lot of stuff just wasn't thought out at all while other stuff got removed prematurely without reason.

  Take DH for instance. We keep Metamorphosis around but it's still the nerfed version and it hasn't even seen play in Fel DH, so....what's the point? Then we get Flamereaper, which also has never seen play and barely even has synergy at all. Meanwhile you keep Felscreamer around, when the only purpose of that thing is too cheese with big demons...out of which only 2 remain.

  Then you get to Druid where they massively overcompensate for the rotation of Lunar Eclipse and Overgrowth by adding both Wrath and Living Roots, just to make sure that Druid no longer loses to turn 1 Trogg. Oh and Nourish is back at 5 so if you run Florist it's like Overgrowth never left.

  Meanwhile Mage doesn't even get Snowchugger while the neutral section is desperately lacking in useful mechs. Is Piloted Shredder still so broken that you wouldn't put it in Core? Also Pyroblast to replace Mask of C'Thun except it doesn't work with Clumsy Courier, Iceblood Tower or Magister Dawngrasp. Great. Could have had Power of Creation at the very least, but no, let's just make sure Big Spell Mage remains a jumbled mess. But hey, at least Kalecgos is here and now it costs 1-mana less to not actually run him in any deck.

  Other stuff is puzzling as well but at least there's indication for future themes this year. Would love to see Discard decks make a return now that Jeklik is back and buffed.

  Also no Living Dragonbreath, so have fun getting molested by Freeze Shaman

   

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  Zyella Valeera 590 586 Posts Joined 10/16/2020
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Quote From YourPrivateNightmare

  Gonna be honest, I'm somewhat disappoint with this Core set. Not that there aren't some neat changes, but it feels like a lot of stuff just wasn't thought out at all while other stuff got removed prematurely without reason.

  Take DH for instance. We keep Metamorphosis around but it's still the nerfed version and it hasn't even seen play in Fel DH, so....what's the point? Then we get Flamereaper, which also has never seen play and barely even has synergy at all. Meanwhile you keep Felscreamer around, when the only purpose of that thing is too cheese with big demons...out of which only 2 remain.

  Then you get to Druid where they massively overcompensate for the rotation of Lunar Eclipse and Overgrowth by adding both Wrath and Living Roots, just to make sure that Druid no longer loses to turn 1 Trogg. Oh and Nourish is back at 5 so if you run Florist it's like Overgrowth never left.

  Meanwhile Mage doesn't even get Snowchugger while the neutral section is desperately lacking in useful mechs. Is Piloted Shredder still so broken that you wouldn't put it in Core? Also Pyroblast to replace Mask of C'Thun except it doesn't work with Clumsy Courier, Iceblood Tower or Magister Dawngrasp. Great. Could have had Power of Creation at the very least, but no, let's just make sure Big Spell Mage remains a jumbled mess. But hey, at least Kalecgos is here and now it costs 1-mana less to not actually run him in any deck.

  Other stuff is puzzling as well but at least there's indication for future themes this year. Would love to see Discard decks make a return now that Jeklik is back and buffed.

  Also no Living Dragonbreath, so have fun getting molested by Freeze Shaman

   

  Most puzzling thing is, War axe its useless who is still in core. Like atleast replace it with kings defender or the axe from Withwood that buffs a rush minion

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  Maurice Eldritch Horror 635 296 Posts Joined 07/12/2019
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Reno in Standard again? No, oh please, Godot, please no! :(

  Standard was allready bad for me, this will kill this mode for me for one full year completely.

  Please enjoy your 6 mana 4/6 heal for 29 - but I get PTSD, when I imagine hearing in about every second game "We gonna be rich!".

  In Wild Reno became a niche card and I am fine with that - but in the past the card was "everywhere". x_X

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  Danny Anduin 205 86 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Tar Creeper is back in Standard! This brings back memories!

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  Mae 255 53 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  no fucking way they reprinted reno

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  TriMay 430 130 Posts Joined 01/15/2020
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  I'm looking at Reno Jackson and Zola the Gorgon and thinking about bad meme decks that I am going to enjoy :)

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  Sinascendant 105 30 Posts Joined 01/21/2020
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Is there a list of what cards got buffed? I noticed Crowley and  Azure Drake both got +1 health but it's been a while since I've seen a lot of these and I've forgotten

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  Ticomon 355 150 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Nice
  Brann + Rokara 
  LETS GO 2 JUGGERNAUTS

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  Gobas Unicorn Reveler 415 125 Posts Joined 06/08/2019
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Oh Hello Mr. Reno.
  I love to create Reno decks.

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  Kaptaintrips 425 402 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Very exciting to make decks to counter Reno as well...

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  DarkMoose 260 40 Posts Joined 07/20/2019
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Wow... Awesome choice of cards... Lots of cards I enjoyed a lot back in their days... Excited for this rotation for sure! 

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  bondiolorg 230 66 Posts Joined 06/04/2021
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Congrats guys! You're the first ones to put this given that Blizz had most of the day the site off.

  Now talking about core set, in general I really like the changes done overall. But they missed the mark again with Mage cards. Although some are a pretty much BIG success, there are some that are there with not that much of a purpose. If I were on charge, I'd done the following:

  • Snap Freeze -> Ray of Frost: WAY more useful in most of the scenarios. Snap Freeze is just a bad card.
  • Shooting Star -> Magic Trick: More useful for giving support to nagas or in general as a card. Shooting Star without good spell damage and Firebrand is useless.
  • Ethereal Conjurer -> Goblin Blastmage: It's just a very bad card. The only use it had was when an RNG Font of Power gave you REALLY bad cards. Goblin Blastmage is an OK card and very good support to mech mage.
  • Pyromaniac -> Snowchugger: Very slow and without Tour Guide don't think it's worth the slot. Snowchugger is direct support to mech mage and a good card in general that could fit the 2 mana slot, tempo wise.

  It seems they REALLY want us to play nothing but Big Spell Mage only, because it's the only archetype which had support (and by support I mean A LOT of it). Secret Mage got also some love, but it has anything to do with the current expansion, probably will be something for the upcoming ones.

  As I said, overall very good changes, but they don't seem to know what to do with Mage...

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  Zyella Valeera 590 586 Posts Joined 10/16/2020
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Quote From bondiolorg

  Congrats guys! You're the first ones to put this given that Blizz had most of the day the site off.

  Now talking about core set, in general I really like the changes done overall. But they missed the mark again with Mage cards. Although some are a pretty much BIG success, there are some that are there with not that much of a purpose. If I were on charge, I'd done the following:

  • Snap Freeze -> Ray of Frost: WAY more useful in most of the scenarios. Snap Freeze is just a bad card.
  • Shooting Star -> Magic Trick: More useful for giving support to nagas or in general as a card. Shooting Star without good spell damage and Firebrand is useless.
  • Ethereal Conjurer -> Goblin Blastmage: It's just a very bad card. The only use it had was when an RNG Font of Power gave you REALLY bad cards. Goblin Blastmage is an OK card and very good support to mech mage.
  • Pyromaniac -> Snowchugger: Very slow and without Tour Guide don't think it's worth the slot. Snowchugger is direct support to mech mage and a good card in general that could fit the 2 mana slot, tempo wise.

  It seems they REALLY want us to play nothing but Big Spell Mage only, because it's the only archetype which had support (and by support I mean A LOT of it). Secret Mage got also some love, but it has anything to do with the current expansion, probably will be something for the upcoming ones.

  As I said, overall very good changes, but they don't seem to know what to do with Mage...

  Youd keep War axe then?

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  bondiolorg 230 66 Posts Joined 06/04/2021
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Missed the mark with that one. Seems clunky. But it may be due to RNG pool. Does warrior still has some way of generating weapons in standard other than War Cache?

  Anyways, it's bad, but I don't think it's that much of an issue. Warrior has lots of stuff. Mage case is different. Only one archetype received support. That's bad from a design perspective. Most of the other classes received support for many archetypes. Do the exercise and review all cards and you'll notice that they gave support for 2 or 3 archetypes on each class.

  Warrior had support for Quest previously. Now they added support for Control as well. Mage only has Big Spell Mage. That's it. They gave support somewhat to Hero Power... But with only 1 bad card. That's not support. Mage needed some extra tools for Mech and Naga mage. Don't think it's viable as it's right now.

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  jagu 405 186 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Tar Creeper That really brings me back.

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  ChahDresh 295 162 Posts Joined 11/21/2020
  Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

  Wow, some returning all-stars in the legendary slots! Fandral, Ragnaros Lightlord, Lyra AND Murozond for priest, Kalecgos, Darius, Tess... fun fun fun!

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