Hearthstone

So Quest Hunter has been my favourite competitive deck during the DoD meta because of how versatile and unique it was. Thanks to Leeroy Jenkins it basically played like a combo deck, but instead of just burning through your deck like a lobotomite until you have lethal you had to use your ressources as efficiently as possible and get in chip damage until you get into a position where your opponent can't possibly win anymore.

After Leeroy got HoF'd the deck just kind of fell apart because despite having a strong payoff it now struggled to actually close out the game (and the lack of Zilliax certainly didn't help either). During AoO the deck was essentially dead. The only support it received was Zixor, Apex Predator which just wasn't a good enough replacement. So I just kind of accepted this deck was a one-expansion gimmick and moved on..

However, due to me being bored by the current trend of Hunter being either a braindead face deck or an equally brain dead amalgamation of overstatted cards (also known as Highlander Hunter) I tried to find new ways to play the class. After trying (and failing) to build some from of Deathrattle Hunter (and wasting 3600 dust on Vectus and Teron Gorefiend in the process) I eventually ended up in a situation where I realized that Nine Lives works exceptionally well with Zixor, effectively giving your 4 additional Primes over the course of the game. I then continued testing with a Quest Hunter build where I ended up cutting all the Deathrattle stuff (which was just too slow and pointless) and instead went hard on a Zixor package aiming to just simply outressource the opponent by spamming Cyborg-lizards until they are out of removals...and it worked surprisingly well.

Priest absolutely cannot deal with it (unless you let them steal Zixor or are dumb enough to play into Mindrender), Warrior's only actual out is Rattlegore (which is actually pretty effective and you can't deal with it), Demon Hunter, Hunter, Shaman and Highlander Mage all have a chance but you can most certainly push them off the board and set up lethal. Druid is...broken...but still manageable if they don't get the perfect curve (Veranus is key, but an early Lake Thresher just fucks your shit completely). Paladin can be difficult if they snowball but I have put in the tools to somewhat deal with it. Only Rogue is a truly terrible matchup based on the fact that Stealth counters Rush.

At the end of they day it's a counter deck to specific matchups, but at the very least it's fun.

Anyways, I'm genuinely proud of this build and surprised it works as well as it does:

Hey now, you're a Zixor

Wild · Quest Hunter · by YourPrivateNightmare · 5 years, 7 months ago

• 1 Clear the Way x 1
• 1 Hunter's Mark x 2
• 1 Overwhelm x 2
• 1 Unseal the Vault x 1
• 1 Wolpertinger x 2
• 2 Hench-Clan Hogsteed x 2
• 2 Questing Explorer x 2
• 2 Scavenger's Ingenuity x 2
• 3 Desert Spear x 2
• 3 Diving Gryphon x 2
• 3 Nine Lives x 2
• 3 Unleash the Hounds x 2
• 3 Zixor, Apex Predator x 1
• 4 Cult Master x 2
• 5 Faceless Corruptor x 1
• 5 Teacher's Pet x 1
• 6 Swarm of Locusts x 2
• 6 Veranus x 1

7,180 Dust 1,787 0 Copy Deck Code

Has anyone else been experiencing this? I'm getting disconnected way more than usual over the last week or so. Cost me 2 games today, one yesterday, and several others I lost track of. I'm on a laptop, and it's not my internet (checked it every time). I'm so frustrated!!!

I've tried a lot of different versions, some that are more midranged with Dragon synergies, some that are more aggressive with lots of 1-drops, but I keep finding that they just don't cut it. They're not fast enough to be consistent against control decks, and the other classes that support aggro and tempo decks are often better at it, so if you don't have a 1-drop into Power Word: Feast as your opening play, you're often dead in the water. Relying on getting at least one cheap buff in your opening hand has been a struggle.

First of all, this is not a salt thread about aggro decks. I know everybody enjoys different types of decks and I am not the one to judge. However, I do not enjoy aggro decks. I don't want games to end on turn 5, I don't want my highest cost card to be a 4 mana card. I want to play expensive cards, I want to control the board, I want to assemble my win condition and I want big swing turns. I am a control/combo player, that is what I enjoy about hearthstone.

Last expansion was the first time I generally experienced fatigue and stopped playing for a couple of weeks. The introduction of demon hunter and how blatantly overpowerd basically all of their cards were and how it was a stupid strong deck even after 10+ cards got nerfed just tilted me so much that I could not enjoy the game anymore. 

Then the new expansion came and I got excited again, so many cool new legendaries with unique effects, but also a lot of veeeeryyy strong tools for aggro(a better jeeves, really?). I jumped into the first day, opened my packs, crafted some exciting cards and went right in and it was so fun. I played highlander warrior and priest, ripper warrior, control-soulshard-warlock, paladin paladin and more. Druid seems stupid again with all the ramp but that is nothing new. Besides that I had a lot of fun the first couple of days. Paladin paladin also seems very strong but not op and I saw loads of different decks and archetypes. But after a couple of days, the thing that always happens happened. Aggro came through. Suddenly a majority of players started playing aggro rogue, hunter or druid, all petty much the same lists and they are very strong. The reload they gave rogue is insane(1 mana draw 5 seems like a good idea, right?) , token druids win condition has been savage roar for years and I am sick of it and even hunter has so much card draw and value generation, that it seems impossible to outvalue/outlive them with any type of control deck.

It just seems there is no place for control decks any more, and if you want to play a combo deck you better combo your opponent to death before turn 7 or you are just dead. Which means you gotta play druid and that just feels like tossing a coin to me.

I want to know how you feel, has anyone made similar experiences? What do you do to still enjoy the game? Or is hearthstone just not the right game for me anymore? 

Hey guys thought i would upload some of the decks ive been refining since release day. Please upload yours if you wish.

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really fun great against control, would love some feedback on this one

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a bit draw dependent but hilarious if you get good starting hand. good against decks who like clearing your board turn after turn

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another hurt me deck but my own take on it that i theorycrafted two weeks ago

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really good against druid and other decks that cant deal with big minions

so thats it please show me your fun decks from SA

Hope this is the right section/anyone could help me.

When I start the Hearthstone app on my smartphone, it goes smooth and everything. After the time required to play 2/3 game, it starts lagging; restarting the app, makes Hearthstone go smooth until it starts to lag again.

It started doing this like a month ago, but I have no idea how to solve this. Does anyone have any advice?

My smartphone is a Xiaomi Mi 9T btw.

Thank you in advance

It's clear now that blizzard will never nerf the rez mechanic, a mechanic in wild that is so abused and annoying to play against, yet so easy to pilot that a lot of people are still playing it even now. And it's clear there is no stopping it, since bliz is even now releasing cards like Raise Dead and Vectus for the neverending bullshit that is Convincing Infiltrator spam. And i have gotten tired of trying to voice my opinion about it just to hear people tell me it's fair and balanced and fun to play against just because it's their favorite deck to play in wild. So i'm just going to make this thread three times a year, or until the mechanic is fixed.

What is this thread you ask? Well a year ago there was a deck:

Big Priest Murder Simulator

Wild · Control Mage · by Morkimus · 6 years, 8 months ago

• 1 Gravelsnout Knight x 2
• 1 Saronite Taskmaster x 2
• 1 Weasel Tunneler x 1
• 2 Arcanologist x 2
• 2 Flamecannon x 2
• 2 Primordial Glyph x 2
• 3 Arcane Intellect x 2
• 3 Conjurer's Calling x 2
• 3 Counterspell x 2
• 3 Forgotten Torch x 2
• 3 Marsh Drake x 2
• 3 Polymorph: Boar x 2
• 3 Potion of Polymorph x 2
• 4 Polymorph x 2
• 6 Sylvanas Windrunner x 1
• 8 Marin the Fox x 1
• 9 Frost Lich Jaina x 1

7,400 Dust 9,516 12 Copy Deck Code

Okay that's enough of my rambling, here's where you come in, i will be testing these changes out myself but other opinions are always welcome :)

Potential additions by expansion:

Saviors of Uldum:

Reno the Relicologist

Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron(?)

Zephrys the Great(potential highlander possibility in wild. zephrys can get Cabal Shadow Priest early)

Golden Scarab(potentially more Polymorph)

Descent of Dragons(and Galakrond's Awakening):

Malygos, Aspect of Magic(mainly for Malygos's Polymorph, but eight damage from Malygos's Flamestrike wouldn't be bad either or even Malygos's Intellect for draw)

The Amazing Reno POOF

Ashes of Outland:

Evocation(potentially more Polymorph)

Magtheridon(i would never craft this card for this deck, but it does make sense for the matchup.)

Infectious Sporeling(sounds good but probably doesn't work, priest has removal for things like this)

Terrorguard Escapee(one of the new cards for this deck. Mostly an excuse as to why they haven't nerfed the rez mechanic, but it could work nicely)

Scholomance Academy:

Devolving Missiles(potentially not good enough, but i'll try it out.)

[Hearthstone Card (Lorekeeper polkelt) Not Found](basically freeze mage, play polkelt topdeck blizzard freeze them out for an OTK, Just keep telling yourself the whole time, that running Mindrender Illucia in a rez deck is bad deck design and don't be too upset when they play it anyway.)

Sphere of Sapience(tutor for polymorph effects)

If there's anything i missed let me know, but i think i got pretty much everything. In closing rez priest is not a hard opponent to beat with the right deck, just about any control deck with [Hearthstone Card (chef gnomi) Not Found], and enough removal can beat it. But this deck isn't designed for that. It's designed to make the rez priest feel bad they picked that deck to play. It wants to make them question every mage they see might be the unwinnable matchup. To make the priest stop joining games with their rez deck and think they've won on turn one because they had Convincing Infiltrator and two Resurrect in their mulligan. It's for that reason. If you have a similar deck let me know i'm down to check it out!

I decided to leave my impressions and thoughts about these first few days of the expansion and an analysis of the legendary cards i've got. The thread is long so bear with me.

Glide is a card that i despised upon first glance. I mostly play slow decks and it looked like something designed to completely screw over with them in aggro DH which is supposed to be weak to Control decks. I only played against two DH with Glide so far. The meta isn't favorable for the card but it's awful if you are trying to keep resources in hand. They vomit everything on their hand and then they play this and refill their hand while discarding yours (it's not true discard but it feels like that). It may not be as op as i thought but it's as anti-fun as i thought. 

I got Lorekeeper Polkelt from the bundle and i've been testing him mostly in highlander decks. It's an interesting card that has its uses but it can be a liability as well. You can play him one turn before you get to your big cards and you are guaranteed to draw them on the next turn. I have used it to have Dinotamer Brann consistently in my hand by turn 7 but if you don't draw Polkelt in time then he just becomes useless. Also, he's bad for specific card combinations. I've been testing Professor Slate in the deck as well and it's not good to have both him and/or Rapid Fire at the bottom of your deck. Polkelt is a little tricky to use properly and not as much of a meta breaker as people thought.

Speaking of Professor Slate, that's a card i haven't seen at all. Not in ladder, not in videos, absolutely nothing. I decided to test the card and it's quite good. Hunter doesn't lack hard removal. In fact, they have a lot of it right now with both Slate and Krolusk Barkstripper joining his arsenal alongside Deadly Shot and Rotnest Drake. The key difference is that Slate isn't random. You can choose your destruction target and that's relevant against wider boards. The problem is the lack of good spells to use with the card. Rapid Fire is good with Slate and... pretty much nothing else. Well, there's Vereesa Windrunner but nobody uses her so... Yeah. Besides that, we have Explosive Shot and Multi-Shot. These are not good enough. There will be people making the atrocious mistake of running into an Explosive Trap before removing Slate but i can't really count secrets as those are very easy to play around. In the end, the card lacks proper support but he can easily become great with a decent and cheap Multi-hit/AoE spell (like Grievous Bite in Wild).

Mindrender Illucia is another card that's really hard to utilize properly. She is mostly good for disrupting combos but those are extremely rare because the ladder is full of aggro decks. In my experience, she isn't great in control or midrange games because even if you waste your opponent's resources they can do the same to you. You don't want to play her with your big cards in hand and if you wait too much then there won't be much left to disrupt. In aggro games you can actually use her more effectively because your opponent is mostly holding low cost cards and you are holding high cost cards. If you play her early you can screw them and they won't be able to do much with your hand. Overall, she is another card that's really tricky to play with and she gives me the tech card vibe. 

The meta isn't great on my end as i'm facing Druid all the time. There are a lot of Face Rogues (ugh...) and all sorts of Hunter decks as well. I rarely see Paladins and Warriors and not much else. Druids tend to fall apart pretty quickly against any aggression. However, it's undeniable that Lightning Bloom is a liability and it's just going to cause problems for the remainder of the year and the next one. Secret Passage is also pretty ridiculous. Voracious Reader is only good in extreme hyper aggressive decks that vomit their hands very quickly but the card isn't very good in any deck with cards that costs 4 or more. I think it will be fine if Face DH and Face Rogue fall from the meta.

Just as i expected, Mozaki, Master Duelist is extremely difficult to utilize as she is a combo card and the ladder is infested with aggression. Combo decks just fall apart very easily because of that. So far, she seems like a big meme that's going to see play just because combo lovers will never give up on making cards like that work. Ras Frostwhisper is much better and can be slotted into Highlander Mage without any other support cards. I don't play Shaman so i don't know how he's doing in that class. Btw, Ras is the only dual class legendary i've got so far. Really unlucky.

Finally, there's Sphere of Sapience. The card is very good in specific decks. I utilize it in my Wild OTK Miracle Priest. The deck always ran into the problem of drawing my big key minions before i could play Zerek's Cloning Gallery and the weapon prevents that which greatly increased its consistency. The weapon is good in Big Warrior and Duel Paladin as well because you really want to keep the big minions in the deck so you cheat them out. Sphere is pretty good, especially in decks that want to keep certain cards inside the deck.

Edit: I completely forgot about Infiltrator Lilian. I guess that's how much i care about aggressive cards. I tried her in a Secret Passage Stealth Rogue and it was fine. The deck has a lot of damage. Self-Sharpening Sword and Vulpera Toxinblade are really strong. Sometimes i didn't even need Secret Passage to win but that card just improves the deck's consistency a lot. Drawing 5 cards for so little just leaves a ton of flexibility and you can make the most out of your mana because of it. Also, if you draw Eviscerate the combo is going to active already. Lilian itself is just okay. The guaranteed damage can make the difference occasionally but she isn't needed to play a deck like this.

So far, the expansion just feels okay. There's some big mana cheat shenanigans happening (mostly because of Lightning Bloom but High Abbess Alura also contributes to the issue), lots of aggro decks, combo decks dying to aggro decks (as always) and Control decks seem to be AFK (at least, i haven't seen a lot of them). Let's see what's going to happen next week. Any thoughts? Thanks for reading!

Enjoy this magnificent pack I opened today!

https://imgur.com/a/87tZduj

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I know it is a bit early to claim anything about any decks. I could afford stealth cards after openning my packs and wanted to try it out. I got 9-1 with this deck on plat 9. Maybe someone got these cards from packs and can't afford any others right now so wanted to share it out.

If you want, you can replace Wand Thiefs and/or Blackjack Stunners with Backstabs and/or Sinister Strikes, I won't completely suggest that tho because Blackjack Stunner gives you the ability of getting rid of fat taunt minions and Wand Thief gives you some burn spells and also Evocation.

Also, If you don't have Shadowjeweler Hanar, You may want to replace secret package with some aggro tools like Cold Blood and/or Sneaky Delinquent. I wouldn't suggest that neither because Bamboozle is great with your 1 health minions and they stick to board thanks to new Robes of Protection and also Ambush is great for getting rid of some sticky taunt minions.

I couldn't get Secret Passage for now, It might be great to go lethal with searching Eviscerates from your deck. As soon as i crafted them, I will test it in this deck.

I hope you like it and Any suggestions + replacement advices are appreciated.

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guide written on the deck page

I have had a lot of success with deck I hit diamond from silver today with this deck with barely any losses.

Cabal Priest

Wild · Galakrond Priest · by KingMicahhh · 5 years, 7 months ago

• 1 Disciple of Galakrond x 2
• 1 Holy Smite x 2
• 1 Renew x 2
• 1 Wave of Apathy x 2
• 2 Sethekk Veilweaver x 2
• 2 Thoughtsteal x 2
• 3 Breath of the Infinite x 2
• 4 Cabal Acolyte x 2
• 4 Devoted Maniac x 2
• 4 Shadow Word: Ruin x 1
• 5 Headmaster Kel'Thuzad x 1
• 5 Shield of Galakrond x 2
• 5 Time Rip x 2
• 6 Cabal Shadow Priest x 2
• 6 Kronx Dragonhoof x 1
• 7 Galakrond, the Unspeakable x 1
• 7 Soul Mirror x 1
• 8 Murozond the Infinite x 1

11,680 Dust 1,007 0 Copy Deck Code

I posted this deck on my hearthpwn account as well with a more detailed description but no mulligan guide or anything as of yet.

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1360390-insane-aggro-destroyer-priest-cabal-priest

Hope you enjoy

Hi, all.

So, up until yesterday I had saved around 9.2k gold for SA packs. My only wish was to obtain Illucia and after opening 80 packs (including freebies), I finally got her. Right now I have 2k gold remaining and I don't feel like buying any more packs - my current legendaries are Infiltrator Lilian (freebie), Ace Hunter, Malicia, Ras and Illucia. Normally I would like to have Alabaster, Polkelt and Sphere as well, but I am not that likely to open another legendary, yet alone one of the desired three in the next 20 packs. So, I considered the following options: Buying two wings of an adventure or the BG-bundle. And right now I just can't decide what I should go after.

From the pve adventures I only want Naxx tbh, but since I missed the chance to buy the first wing, I can't use gold to purchase it, so that's out of the question. I considered whether I wanted to buy BrM and ONiK and I figured, it's not worth to do it for the sake of new cards, since most of them don't see any play and the ones, that do, are so derp cheap, that I can craft them easily with dust. This led me to the following options - GA or the dungeon-run adventures in RoS/SoU. Now, my goal is mainly to have fun. I have heard, that GA was a bit underwhelming and it didn't offer much replayability, so I am leaning towards the other picks, but I would like to hear your opinion on those three adventures. 

Regarding the BG-bundle: I play bgs casually. My rating is 6.3k, so you can see, that I am not that devoted to it. It was another thing I decided to buy due the fun factor.

So, those are my options. I would like to hear what you guys think and what you could recommend me. Btw, I am aware, that I could save my gold for the next expansion, but I think I will accumulate enough, when it hits. Not to mention, I am not in the mood for such long-term investments.

For me this was the shortest expansion and I've had HS since beta (played frequently since Knights of Frozen Throne). Never have I seen so many players who refuse to put any new card on their decks on day 1. And they are right, I guess. Because this expansion provided with new cards but no new decks or decent archetypes for wild. So I want to try a good token druid with the new cards but somehow I've played against 0 of them in ladder. Does anyone have a good list for it? just want to have some fun with the good cards and actually win :/

Edit: actually if you have any other decent ideas for other decks, feel free to share :)

This is not a complaint thread, more of a commentary and attempt at a neutral analysis of my pack opening.

First off I need to set the stage. I am 100% free to play and typically save up at least 8k gold between expansions. My philosophy is to purchase 60 decks and use whatever freebies Blizzard hands out to form the basis of my collection. If I get close to the legendary pity timer at the end of opening those packs, I'll buy a few packs at a time until I hit the timer. This time around I already had three packs waiting from my monthly ladder rewards and I completed day 1 of the special quests to get two more packs before I opened anything.

My login reward was Infiltrator Lilian. I guess it has some promise, but it wasn't my first choice. I suspect with the Self-Sharpening Sword and Secret Passage there will be some decks out there that will make use of her.

I got my first legendary Ras Frostwhisper at pack 3, not even halfway into the first 10 timer for a new set. He looks pretty cool and I think there is some potential for a spell power mage deck to work with this.

My next one came 19 packs later, Lord Barov. I'm not too excited about this one, but who knows. Two out of my first 5 epics in this stretch were Secret Passage, so I've at least got that much nerf dust coming to me. :-)

The next one did not come until 39 packs later. I can't tell you how anxious I got waiting for that gold glow. This one I do feel good about, Sphere of Sapience should be integral for a few decks that come up. And that was the end of my notable cards. My most notable pack was having an epic show up in the same pack as my last legendary. My golden count was 9 (1 epic, 4 rare, and 4 common).

Interestingly enough, 65 packs was the exact amount I needed to get all the rare cards. I double checked using 'missing' and 'extra' searches in my collection, and I have exactly two of every rare card. I also got 12 total epic cards and the three legendary. With the epic timer at 10, that probably makes five packs the average, so I'm right on the money there. If we remove the first legendary and the first 10 cards that puts me at 2/50 which is slightly below average.

I do have some dust stored up that I can comfortably craft a few must have epic or legendary cards. I'll just be patient and wait to see which ones those are.

Anyone else care to share their experience?

I just played almost 5 hours straight after Scholomance Academy's release and I'd like to discuss our first impressions here. I'm aware of the fact that nothing is solved yet and it's probably way too early to judge the meta, but let's just put together our observations, shall we? 

For me, Beast Spell Druid was the most successful deck I played. I don't remember losing a game with it. I'm not even sure if this can be kept in line by aggro anymore. 

Soul Fragment Handlock was fun and looks promising, but needs some refinement. I don't own Kelidan, but I think he might be a good addition to this deck. 

Aggro Alura Paladin is meh. Sometimes I managed to snowball hard, but most of the time I got out valued. Haven't played Pure Alura yet and the games against that deck felt fair. 

Priest seems to be in a good place. I queued into lots of buff Priests and they are very hard to beat imho. Will probably try this out this weekend. 

Zoolock was very underwhelming. This needs much refinement. 

I tried a Deathrattle Hunter list for a few games, but it wasn't very exciting. Much depends on drawing Teron in time. 

Big Warrior appears to be a thing. Very hard to beat if you cant apply lots of pressure early. 

Demon Hunter looks cool. Not OP, just fun to play imho. I got Kreen as a golden legendary from the bundle and I'm really happy with that. 

What surprised me most was mage. I got all the legendarys and finally crafted Solarian and Kalecgos but neither the Spell Damage nor the Highlander archetype worked for me. I played Flux's Pew Pew Pew Mage for almost and hour and won only two games (one was a disconnect and the second a frustrated but unnecessary concede after a misplay). Can someone please explain to me how Mozaki is supposed to work? Either I don't draw her or I'm not able to hold on to enough cheap spells to do something significant. I wanted to make this work so badly, but I'm at a loss right now. Maybe I tried too many of the new cards at once. 

So what are your first impressions? I haven't seen much of Rogue, how are they doing? Have you made similar experiences like me? Where do you disagree? Any advice for mage? 

Well, as the title said:had an unfinished Arenarun, which is now still open. Anyone experiencing the same? 

So: Scholomance Academy is out, and with it, a new meta is here. People have finished opening their packs and are trying out their new cards on the ladder (or going Face Hunter). Is there any deck that you found nearly unbeatable or unfun to play against?

Anything like Day 1 Demon Hunter or Galakrond Shaman?

Personally, I've been playing Soul Fragment Warlock and I've found it impossible to win against Druid after even one Survival of the Fittest. It turns all trades in their favor for the rest of the game. An aggro deck may however succeed well against that archetype, and people are posting all kinds of crazy Turn 1 Gibberling plays.

Is Druidstone incoming?

Cuz Rogue is coming with their flashy new weapon and all of its support. It's going for your face, so be ready for that before it happens 5 times in a row.....

I thought it normally starts after 1pm cst time zone but nothing has happened yet.  Anyone know a better timeframe?