If you can survive and aren't facing something that can remove/polymorph big stuff fast (control shaman and warrior in particular) it's nice. But I've had more success with warrior, mage and shaman decks.
I have yet to see a High Priest Amet used though, as much fear and hoopla streamers made of it.
I am talking about the data OP totally ignored also taunt ress quest priest is at 50%+ win rate..
also both quest druid and quest shaman have like 100 different builds and different strategies.. I think the sub 50% winrate is cause of experimentation.. you can check that some lists have more than 3000 games and 55+ win rate so it's not over for the 2 most anticipated quests.
I guess this could have been a Salt Thread post ... but ok ...
Sure there are some Murloc Paladins out there but right now i`ve only encountered 2 - and to cry about it within the first week is a little overdramatic - at least in my oppinion.
And also it`s a little bit high-rolly ...
salt? nah I play the deck no need to be salty just looks really insane, tbh now that I played the deck.. it has 0 chance vs warrior so I guess it's fine it's crazy nonetheless though.
using HS replay within the first week of the expansion means jackshit tbh
Their site is heavily flawed when they don't have that much data
I remember when Even Paladin was still the highest winrate deck...post nerf...still running Call to Arms...
Paladin just preys on all the greedy decks that don't run AoE (or know how to capitalize on a deck that has no removal and runs a very predictable amount of minions...probably could beat it with Quest warlock to be honest)
Got 3 board flood cards (2 tip the scales+1 nomi)
Findley, and zephyr the great, it got enough staying power, It's the token druid of the expansion basically.
So it'll be moaned about for a few weeks then disappear into obscurity? Awesome. 😃
Token druid was tier 1/2 the whole RoS expansion..
Neferset Thrasher into Diseased Vulture is legit scary combo that can almost win the game on its own. I do agree that the Lackey route is probably a better option tho.
Why not both?
What do you mean ?
Run both lackeys and self damage packages, I tried it, it's quite effective, yet to face warrior or paladin though
Neferset Thrasher into Diseased Vulture is legit scary combo that can almost win the game on its own. I do agree that the Lackey route is probably a better option tho.
using HS replay within the first week of the expansion means jackshit tbh
Their site is heavily flawed when they don't have that much data
I remember when Even Paladin was still the highest winrate deck...post nerf...still running Call to Arms...
Paladin just preys on all the greedy decks that don't run AoE (or know how to capitalize on a deck that has no removal and runs a very predictable amount of minions...probably could beat it with Quest warlock to be honest)
Got 3 board flood cards (2 tip the scales+1 nomi)
Findley, and zephyr the great, it got enough staying power, It's the token druid of the expansion basically.
Awful, I opened 2 legendaries in 40 packs, and most packs were 4 commons and a rare, on the bright side it seems I won't be crafting commons this time around.. and at least those commons are very powerful as well.
2. he played against zoo priest and highlander paladin those decks are both.. very hard to refine rather than the deck that build itself that is quest paladin.
3. I mean.. you can also watch kibler playing plot twist warlock and doing well it doesn't say much about the power level of the deck.. some players are just better than others in zooish games kripp is quite good since he is an arena player.
Do yourself a favor and don't craft golden cards it's the most pointless feature of the game I would rather play 2 different legendaries than one that has a little animation.
As well as try to avoid crafting any legendaries on day one, except very safe ones like Siamat(there's no way this card isn't good) or shaman quest which looks solid enough.
I'm going to bookmark this comment, in case Siamat turns out to be rubbish.
Well this card got both elemental and battlecry synergies, it's a 7 drop with decent stats for it's ability, very flexible and there are not many 7 drops being played right now.
I can see this card not seeing play if the meta is too fast, but in the 1.5 years the card is out there is no way this card won't be played in a top deck the power level is there and it has the potential to have more synergies.
True, mage doesn't have unconditional board clears, just those that deal damage, that's mostly because the basic and classic sets got 3 strong AOE cards that are constantly seen in mage decks: Doomsayer + Frost Nova, Blizzard, Flamestrike.
they might not be Plague of Death, Psychic Scream or Brawl, but thanks to mage's hero power those aoes are better at dealing with the board and "softening" the targets, and the access to freeze effects makes those aoes more inevitable..
that modifies the deck with powerful cards but there is nearly no card draw. The whole deck might be unstable and run out defence. I don´t see blazin as bad but agree that 2 earthquakes might be too much. Also elementary reactions might be too weak but there is no card draw i woudl use except one Spirit Frog.
You don't really need card draw if most of your cards cost 6+ mana? some big shaman decks run Spirit of the Frog but as the list stands it got enough late game, also Al'Akir the Windlord is a card that can be considered for the deck as well, can be replaced by one decoy maybe.
I looked at the list and turns out I put in only 2 new cards, and one of them just removes one archmage for a colossus I am not sure which is the other card I removed for earthquake but oh well, this is how I would build big shaman though.
Do yourself a favor and don't craft golden cards it's the most pointless feature of the game I would rather play 2 different legendaries than one that has a little animation.
As well as try to avoid crafting any legendaries on day one, except very safe ones like Siamat(there's no way this card isn't good) or shaman quest which looks solid enough.
Maybe, but remember that the sample size is very low and the other decks are also kind of prototypes, quest shaman has a ton of variations and options while other decks are more restricted and the good variants of those are not found yet, that being said..
bomb warrior was the best archtype in the previews closed beta pre-expansion so I am pretty sure quest shaman is at least tier 2 if not 1 the deck IS strong but other decks are as well.
As far as I have seen they avoided playing ROS decks with a few new cards but mainly trying new decks altogheter
Down vote comment: just felt like down voting.
Jokes aside, need to watch it later kripp is very informative although not being much of a constructed player.
I am talking about the data OP totally ignored also taunt ress quest priest is at 50%+ win rate..
also both quest druid and quest shaman have like 100 different builds and different strategies.. I think the sub 50% winrate is cause of experimentation.. you can check that some lists have more than 3000 games and 55+ win rate so it's not over for the 2 most anticipated quests.
What about quest wall priest? Also is in tier 2.
Don't see another elemental in the deck.
salt? nah I play the deck no need to be salty just looks really insane, tbh now that I played the deck.. it has 0 chance vs warrior so I guess it's fine it's crazy nonetheless though.
Done, sadly got scammed though
Token druid was tier 1/2 the whole RoS expansion..
Run both lackeys and self damage packages, I tried it, it's quite effective, yet to face warrior or paladin though
Why not both?
Got 3 board flood cards (2 tip the scales+1 nomi)
Findley, and zephyr the great, it got enough staying power, It's the token druid of the expansion basically.
Awful, I opened 2 legendaries in 40 packs, and most packs were 4 commons and a rare, on the bright side it seems I won't be crafting commons this time around.. and at least those commons are very powerful as well.
Cause the boogeyman of the expansion is no other than Uther (again) this time with an army of murloc and perfect answers and turn 5 "call to murlocs".
OH and control warrior is way too good as well so that deck isn't going anywhere.
Source:hs replay
1.he didn't show loses.
2. he played against zoo priest and highlander paladin those decks are both.. very hard to refine rather than the deck that build itself that is quest paladin.
3. I mean.. you can also watch kibler playing plot twist warlock and doing well it doesn't say much about the power level of the deck.. some players are just better than others in zooish games kripp is quite good since he is an arena player.
Sorry OP but the deck looks really really bad, runs too many bad cards to be good
Well this card got both elemental and battlecry synergies, it's a 7 drop with decent stats for it's ability, very flexible and there are not many 7 drops being played right now.
I can see this card not seeing play if the meta is too fast, but in the 1.5 years the card is out there is no way this card won't be played in a top deck the power level is there and it has the potential to have more synergies.
True, mage doesn't have unconditional board clears, just those that deal damage, that's mostly because the basic and classic sets got 3 strong AOE cards that are constantly seen in mage decks: Doomsayer + Frost Nova, Blizzard, Flamestrike.
they might not be Plague of Death, Psychic Scream or Brawl, but thanks to mage's hero power those aoes are better at dealing with the board and "softening" the targets, and the access to freeze effects makes those aoes more inevitable..
You don't really need card draw if most of your cards cost 6+ mana? some big shaman decks run Spirit of the Frog but as the list stands it got enough late game, also Al'Akir the Windlord is a card that can be considered for the deck as well, can be replaced by one decoy maybe.
let's call this deck deck without Spirit of the Frog and build a new list with Spirit of the Frog support:
I looked at the list and turns out I put in only 2 new cards, and one of them just removes one archmage for a colossus I am not sure which is the other card I removed for earthquake but oh well, this is how I would build big shaman though.
remove:
- 2 Blazing Invocation MEH card
-2 Elementary Reaction wasn't even run in elemental decks, 2 mana draw 1? not impressed.
-1 Lightning Storm too weak
-1 Earthquake too much aoe.
add:
+2 Likkim good early game control card.
+1 Lightning Bolt for likkim mostly.
+1 Hagatha the Witch too good to not include.
+1 Zilliax you always run zilliax.
+1 Big Bad Voodoo / Ancestral Spirit
Do yourself a favor and don't craft golden cards it's the most pointless feature of the game I would rather play 2 different legendaries than one that has a little animation.
As well as try to avoid crafting any legendaries on day one, except very safe ones like Siamat(there's no way this card isn't good) or shaman quest which looks solid enough.
Maybe, but remember that the sample size is very low and the other decks are also kind of prototypes, quest shaman has a ton of variations and options while other decks are more restricted and the good variants of those are not found yet, that being said..
bomb warrior was the best archtype in the previews closed beta pre-expansion so I am pretty sure quest shaman is at least tier 2 if not 1 the deck IS strong but other decks are as well.
As far as I have seen they avoided playing ROS decks with a few new cards but mainly trying new decks altogheter